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29-06-2020, 02:11 PM
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But it does prove the importance of being a member of an international organisation. Because altough you are a net payer (£ 374/year) it renders a 100 mln investment in your own country.
A bit like being a member of the EU, who by the way foots 23% of esa's annual budget..
You will be interested to know esa started as a german-french initiative.
https://www.esa.int/About_Us/ESA_his...space_research

Hi

The ESA is naff all to do with the EU.

Brexit will not affect it in anyway shape or form.

Many other things will be affected, but not the ESA.

We are not leaving Europe, we are leaving the EU.
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29-06-2020, 02:25 PM
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Hi

The ESA is naff all to do with the EU.

Brexit will not affect it in anyway shape or form.

Many other things will be affected, but not the ESA.

We are not leaving Europe, we are leaving the EU.
Sorry swim, galileo is one of the collaborations between ESA and EU.
This is from 2002!
The European Union and ESA: the need for closer working relations
https://www.esa.int/About_Us/Corpora...king_relations
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29-06-2020, 02:28 PM
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And what about all the rest of the investment that comes from it such as employment, corporation tax etc plus the indirect positive impact on transport retail etc etc.
Thanks dude. You just listed the advantages of EU membership, even though being a net contributor. So you must secretly think leaving the EU was economically damaging.
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29-06-2020, 02:53 PM
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Thanks dude. You just listed the advantages of EU membership, even though being a net contributor. So you must secretly think leaving the EU was economically damaging.
No I didn't.

I listed the advantages of foreign investment - something that the UK is seeing a lot of and the EU is seeing none of.
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29-06-2020, 03:06 PM
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No I didn't.

I listed the advantages of foreign investment - something that the UK is seeing a lot of and the EU is seeing none of.
It was your answer to being a net contributor to an international organisation. Which to the EU you still are

Foreign investment? Oh, of course, you are a third country. Investments from europe are now categorized as foreign investment by you.
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29-06-2020, 07:05 PM
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Hi

The ESA is naff all to do with the EU.

Brexit will not affect it in anyway shape or form.

Many other things will be affected, but not the ESA.

We are not leaving Europe, we are leaving the EU.
The UK government’s plan to invest hundreds of millions of pounds in a satellite broadband company has been described as “nonsensical” by experts, who say the company doesn’t even make the right type of satellite the country needs after*Brexit.

The investment in OneWeb,*first reported on Thursday night, is intended to mitigate the UK’s loss of access to the EU’s Galileo satellite navigation system.

But OneWeb – in which the UK will own a 20% stake following the investment – currently operates a completely different type of satellite network from that typically used to run such navigation systems.

“The fundamental starting point is, yes, we’ve bought the wrong satellites,” said Dr Bleddyn Bowen, a space policy expert at the University of Leicester. “OneWeb is working on basically the same idea as Elon Musk’s Starlink: a mega-constellation of satellites in low Earth orbit, which are used to connect people on the ground to the internet.
What’s happened is that the very talented lobbyists at OneWeb have convinced the government that we can completely redesign some of the satellites to piggyback a navigation payload on it.

OneWeb filed for bankruptcy in March in the US, where most of its operations are located, after failing to secure new funding.
Previously, the UK aimed to build its own global navigation satellite system, which independent experts estimatedwould cost £3bn-£4bn.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/...galileo-brexit
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29-06-2020, 08:00 PM
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Galileo went missing for nearly 3 weeks and nobody knew where it was. How's that for the EUs out of date GPS satellite
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29-06-2020, 08:18 PM
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Re: Oh No Not Another One ! #4

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Galileo went missing for nearly 3 weeks and nobody knew where it was. How's that for the EUs out of date GPS satellite
By using british design the EU thought they had the best available. Like you say, how's that.
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30-06-2020, 07:35 PM
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Galileo went missing for nearly 3 weeks and nobody knew where it was. How's that for the EUs out of date GPS satellite
We had this discussion a year ago. Remember?
https://www.over50sforum.com/showthr...hlight=Galileo
 
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