https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...Union-Brussels

That's all any fishermen want, this latest spate is the failure of EU.

Yes, I can see how such a system might make our democracy more democratic!

However, would replacing our representatives in parliament, who are currently experienced in the art of politics, with men and women off the streets be necessarily a working solution?

Would our replacement 'politicians' be up to the job? What sort of people would we choose? Businessmen? Trendy-lefty teachers? Union shop stewards? UKIP members? Struggling single women with seven children?

You see the potential problems?

Perhaps a more workable solution might be to replace the useless old-people's home on the other side of the Palace of Westminster with a sortitionally-elected body.

The Commons could discuss matters first, as at present, and the ideas they arrive at could then pass to the 'Lords' (or 'People's Parliament') for them to agree or disagree with the proposals.

The 'Sortition' parliament would be less likely to initiate proposals, as that would require a majority decision and there's no way of guessing who would agree with whom.

But if they were given the right to decide democratically within themselves on whether a Bill should be passed or rejected, that could relate to a decision by the country's population in general as to whether they really want what the Commons propose.

If rejected, the Bill would go back to the Commons for alteration, as at present but with the difference that the Lords are far more likely to be led entirely by their own self interest.

Perhaps others might comment on the viability of this idea or, preferably, come up with a better idea.

I don't disagree that all of these problems are as a result of our joining the EU, but there's more to it than that.

Let's assume that the Frogs do leave the EU. Won't they still want to fish in our territorial waters?
They have already depleted their own waters and the Mediterranean sea is similarly lifeless for the same reason.

The North Sea, owned mainly by us and the Norwegians still retains a good amount of fish. The Norwegians won't allow the Frogs to have theirs, but like good little Englishmen we still allow them to ruin our waters.

Remember that our fishermen lost their livelihoods due to an alliance between Heath and the EU.
Are they going to be allowed to restore what they had?
We have the opportunity.
All it needs is another strong PM like Maggie. She would certainly tell the Frogs to bugger off.

You've hit the nail on the head JB . "They will still want to fish our
waters ",
The problem is that their numbers have grown since the EU was
formed, due to France and Holland etc getting preference in quotas
and territory from the CFA!
Now they are too many to make a living in their own waters ??
For instance, not long ago, there were about seventy French boats
allowed to fish in Jersey's waters under a special agreement, just
now , three hundred boats were claiming licences to fish those
same waters !!So, if the froggy fisherman's claims that 80% of their
fishing fleet will become redundant are true, then that is exactly
what needs to happen to put things right !!
After all ,they didn't complain when british fishermen were becoming
redundant not so long ago did they ???
On top of all that, they tend to fish untill there are no fish left to
fish for, and then move on to another area to do the same again !!

Donkeyman! 🤔🤔

We should implement the 2020 UK Fisheries Act in full now and tear up the TCA.

You mean replace the HOL with a house of beggars ??
I don't see why not JBR ??
Then we would get the views from the other end of the spectrum
of society??
But hold on!
Isn't that what the HOC is supposed to be??

You've hit the nail on the head JB . "They will still want to fish our
waters ",
The problem is that their numbers have grown since the EU was
formed, due to France and Holland etc getting preference in quotas
and territory from the CFA!
Now they are too many to make a living in their own waters ??
For instance, not long ago, there were about seventy French boats
allowed to fish in Jersey's waters under a special agreement, just
now , three hundred boats were claiming licences to fish those
same waters !!So, if the froggy fisherman's claims that 80% of their
fishing fleet will become redundant are true, then that is exactly
what needs to happen to put things right !!
After all ,they didn't complain when british fishermen were becoming
redundant not so long ago did they ???
On top of all that, they tend to fish untill there are no fish left to
fish for, and then move on to another area to do the same again !!

https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/201...-uk-fleetwood/

https://www.thelandmagazine.org.uk/a...-uks-fisheries