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Well tough.

If they do not take the jobs, then no Benefits.

Benefits are for those who genuinely cannot work.

I am happy to pay more Tax for them, I object to paying a penny in Tax for those who can and choose not to.
Or perhaps we should be looking at how the big corporations treat workers and our constant feeding of shareholders wealth at the expense of health and normal living? Do we need a beck and call society and constant churning of goods to satisfy artificially induced customer demand?
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Or perhaps we should be looking at how the big corporations treat workers and our constant feeding of shareholders wealth at the expense of health and normal living? Do we need a beck and call society and constant churning of goods to satisfy artificially induced customer demand?
you mean the big corporations that provide you with a pension and jobs for people and wealth for the economy ?

I thought the unions were supposed to be champions of workers rights Annie, are you telling me the unions (the labour party) are failures ?
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you mean the big corporations that provide you with a pension and jobs for people and wealth for the economy ?

I thought the unions were supposed to be champions of workers rights Annie, are you telling me the unions (the labour party) are failures ?
There's a trade off between benefits and risks of big business. Ultimately we are now seeing the down side of unfettered growth. Not only for individuals, consumers but also the planet. Pensions disappear and jobs are automated. It's like a hungry monster that has been allowed free reign whilst forgetting the original purpose of commerce was to make our world a better place for everyone.
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18-02-2020, 01:25 PM
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There's a trade off between benefits and risks of big business. Ultimately we are now seeing the down side of unfettered growth. Not only for individuals, consumers but also the planet. Pensions disappear and jobs are automated. It's like a hungry monster that has been allowed free reign whilst forgetting the original purpose of commerce was to make our world a better place for everyone.

Do you think technology is going to save the planet or not ?

It was only yesterday you were saying we should do more with china who are one of the biggest polluters in the world,
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18-02-2020, 01:36 PM
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China is one the biggest polluters because of the size of it's population.

They are introducing draconian measures to combat this.

They are actually doing quite well.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2...reenpeace-says
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China is one the biggest polluters because of the size of it's population.

They are introducing draconian measures to combat this.

They are actually doing quite well.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2...reenpeace-says
China don't give a toss about pollution

Socialist countries never do - they are the worst polluters the world over.
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China don't give a toss about pollution

Socialist countries never do - they are the worst polluters the world over.
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Will you please stop posting rubbish.

India is not Socialist and neither is the USA.
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Will you please stop posting rubbish.

India is not Socialist and neither is the USA.
Oh please ...you think the USA pollutes more than China ? Since when was population an excuse for destroying the planet ? You really do google up some complete garbage.

Look at Indias past to present journey Swimmy. It's not me posting rubbish it's you. Recently, Denmark (and other countries) farmed out huge chunks of its manufacturing to India in order for these countries to claim being green and environmentally friendly. It resulted in more Co2 emissions in India because as a result they can afford air conditioning etc. They also manufacture more in their polluting factories due to the increase in production.
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Do you think technology is going to save the planet or not ?

It was only yesterday you were saying we should do more with china who are one of the biggest polluters in the world,
Are you sure it was me saying that? China has traditionally had pollution because of excessive western demand for goods. Just as the Amazon rain forest destruction is down to our endless appetite for exotic wood and rare metals/minerals.
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Oh please ...you think the USA pollutes more than China ? Since when was population an excuse for destroying the planet ? You really do google up some complete garbage.

Look at Indias past to present journey Swimmy. It's not me posting rubbish it's you. Recently, Denmark (and other countries) farmed out huge chunks of its manufacturing to India in order for these countries to claim being green and environmentally friendly. It resulted in more Co2 emissions in India because as a result they can afford air conditioning etc. They also manufacture more in their polluting factories due to the increase in production.
This is all linked to western demand for products
 
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