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Re: 'iconic,' blue post-Brexit passports made in Poland by French-Dutch co

Originally Posted by AnnieS ->
So basically it's not about taking back control at all. That was all a big con was it not? We had globalisation before and international manufacturing but voters here expected British manufacturing and British jobs. What a lark!

Wrong again annie

We get to make all our own decisions take control of our laws and make our own trade arrangements with the world.

The EU is a protectionist bloc it does not support globalisation at all. That's part of the reason we left.

And we have full employment in tbe UK the EU does not have anywhere near that.

If I were you I would work out what globalisation and protectionism is... just saying
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Re: 'iconic,' blue post-Brexit passports made in Poland by French-Dutch co

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We aren't sending any workers back to the EU so far 99% of them have qualified for settled status.

We aren't producing blue passports because there are companies set up already that produce our passports, regardless of colour. They produce passports for loads of other countries too - brexit is not about closing the UK off to the rest of the world it's about globalization. The past is the protectionist fantasy of the EU that we just left. The ideology that you want to remain in.
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We have a company here in the UK which already produces Passports.

There was never any requirement to change the blue passport to burgundy.

As for protectionism, the two most protectionist Countries in the World are the USA and China.

We need to invest in our Industries, and Government Contracts are one way of doing this.
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Re: 'iconic,' blue post-Brexit passports made in Poland by French-Dutch co

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Hi

We have a company here in the UK which already produces Passports.

There was never any requirement to change the blue passport to burgundy.

As for protectionism, the two most protectionist Countries in the World are the USA and China.

We need to invest in our Industries, and Government Contracts are one way of doing this.
The change to burgundy wasn't just about the colour it was to include the European Union lettering on it too.

It's also a lot cheaper than making them here
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Re: 'iconic,' blue post-Brexit passports made in Poland by French-Dutch co

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Did we have to negotiate that deal?....
Or are they doing it out of their good nature......
I reckon they're doing it in a feeble attempt to try to keep some sort of control over us.

I can just see this coming up at some future trade negotiation: "pay us through the nose or we'll stop supplying your passports"!
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Re: 'iconic,' blue post-Brexit passports made in Poland by French-Dutch co

I don't have a passport. Looking at how much is charged for one it surprises me that a UK company was not allowed to produce them, even if a foreign company could do that cheaper. At least that would have shown that we are prepared to use UK companies rather than foreign ones. Doing that would also keep our industries going and our workers in jobs.

https://www.gov.uk/passport-fees
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22-02-2020, 10:30 PM
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Re: 'iconic,' blue post-Brexit passports made in Poland by French-Dutch co

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Wrong again annie

We get to make all our own decisions take control of our laws and make our own trade arrangements with the world.

The EU is a protectionist bloc it does not support globalisation at all. That's part of the reason we left.

And we have full employment in tbe UK the EU does not have anywhere near that.

If I were you I would work out what globalisation and protectionism is... just saying
I know all about globalisation thanks, but I don't see how that is compatible with us being a manufacturing giant or how leaving the EU helps any ordinary folk living here if it means jobs are just going abroad. Most here thought that if we leave the EU we will end up as a protectionist bloc of our own. If you think otherwise then you have been sleeping. I do not think anyone here voted leave so that we would sell ourselves and our jobs to the wider global market. I expected that to happen but I doubt many leave voters did. So what we will end up with is the same situation with poorer conditions and fewer options. Frying pan - fire.
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22-02-2020, 10:33 PM
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Re: 'iconic,' blue post-Brexit passports made in Poland by French-Dutch co

Originally Posted by Baz46 ->
I don't have a passport. Looking at how much is charged for one it surprises me that a UK company was not allowed to produce them, even if a foreign company could do that cheaper. At least that would have shown that we are prepared to use UK companies rather than foreign ones. Doing that would also keep our industries going and our workers in jobs.

https://www.gov.uk/passport-fees
Exactly. This is just the start of what we will see in the future. British jobs? Well they will be non existent if everything is contracted to global manufacturing. I haven't seen anything to convince me otherwise. The future = more of our goods and services imported. But we will have even less control. How many voters agreed to this contract being abroad? Zilch.
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22-02-2020, 10:34 PM
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Re: 'iconic,' blue post-Brexit passports made in Poland by French-Dutch co

Originally Posted by JBR ->
I reckon they're doing it in a feeble attempt to try to keep some sort of control over us.

I can just see this coming up at some future trade negotiation: "pay us through the nose or we'll stop supplying your passports"!
Really? You think that our government had no say in this contract? Dream on!
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22-02-2020, 10:42 PM
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Re: 'iconic,' blue post-Brexit passports made in Poland by French-Dutch co

Originally Posted by Baz46 ->
I don't have a passport. Looking at how much is charged for one it surprises me that a UK company was not allowed to produce them, even if a foreign company could do that cheaper. At least that would have shown that we are prepared to use UK companies rather than foreign ones. Doing that would also keep our industries going and our workers in jobs.

https://www.gov.uk/passport-fees
Hi

A great post.

The cost of a Passport is a fraction of what they charge for one.
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22-02-2020, 10:45 PM
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Re: 'iconic,' blue post-Brexit passports made in Poland by French-Dutch co

Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
Hi

A great post.

The cost of a Passport is a fraction of what they charge for one.
that is our future post brexit. We will have to pay through the nose for everything that we cannot produce ourselves. Tell me we have the infrastructure here and that British producers will do this at a lower rate? But why would they?
 
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