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17-09-2019, 07:49 PM
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Re: Boris refuses to appear outside with the PM of Luxembourg

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
The EU has done the best they can. In international law it is laid down that you leave on november 1. So rest asured, you're out by that date.
Only if you undertake some action that is avoided. So what on earth do you want? Sit back and out you go. What you probably can hear are your teeth clattering from fear!

We leave on October 31st 11pm uk time
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17-09-2019, 07:53 PM
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Re: Boris refuses to appear outside with the PM of Luxembourg

Originally Posted by shropshiregirl ->
I see already the Remain Rags are coming out with the headlines "The Incredible Sulk" HAHA. The only one who was pictured sulking was the Luxembourg PM! He looked absolutely embarrassed. Serves him right for not adhering to Boris's request to speak at lecturns in the building where they could both be heard. No doubt, the Luxembourg PM's refusal shows he wasn't even bothered, he obviously wanted his EU mates to see that he had gotten one over on Boris by allowing the rent-a-gobs to be standing where they were. It would have been good propaganda publicity for Remain. Didn't quite pan out how he had hoped though, did it?

One for the Leavers!
To be fair, Boris requested it to be moved inside at the very last minute. There is absolutely no way that could have been adhered to. I actually worked for years in stage rigging for gigs, and even something as small as a public press conference would take quite some time to re-rig.

Being completely objective about this, it really did send out an awful message. I'm not quite sure where you are seeing it as being one for the leavers. The general opinion was that he got cold feet and ran.

If anything it's extremely embarrassing
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17-09-2019, 07:59 PM
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Re: Boris refuses to appear outside with the PM of Luxembourg

Originally Posted by Rainmaker ->
The offensive antics of the Luxemburg PM and his organized band of hecklers will do more to further the cause of the Leave campaign than anything Boris could say or do.
The complete lack of respect, not for just for Boris but for the position of a visiting PM of a friendly country will remain long in the memory of the British public. If we ever manage to get away from the corruption which appears to be endemic in the EU then we will prosper.
It's not really any different to other events that have happened in politics, where politicians have had eggs and milkshakes thrown at them. Does this mean that Boris cannot go anywhere in the event there are people there who disagree with his approach? If that's the case, nothing is going to get done with Brexit. He is in the public eye. He is a politician who makes things happen. There will always be a negative presence. Come on Rainmaker. You know fine well there have been way worse situations politicians have had to endure. The no show gave off all the wrong signals in my opinion and just wasn't warranted.
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17-09-2019, 07:59 PM
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Re: Boris refuses to appear outside with the PM of Luxembourg

Originally Posted by gascony ->
Funnily enough Johnson also did not say anything that we did not already know.
Which is a damn shame. He met with juncker to bring the promised proposals on the backstop. Indeed he had nothing new to tell.
He was sent home tous de suite to do his homework. He couldn't even say goodbye to all his friends who had come over to greet him. The pm of luxemburg offered boris' excuses for hurrying back home. Boris is believed to have cried: my clock is ticking!
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17-09-2019, 08:03 PM
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Re: Boris refuses to appear outside with the PM of Luxembourg

Originally Posted by AidoPotato ->
To be fair, Boris requested it to be moved inside at the very last minute. There is absolutely no way that could have been adhered to. I actually worked for years in stage rigging for gigs, and even something as small as a public press conference would take quite some time to re-rig.

Being completely objective about this, it really did send out an awful message. I'm not quite sure where you are seeing it as being one for the leavers. The general opinion was that he got cold feet and ran.

If anything it's extremely embarrassing

We could re rig it in about 25 minutes max
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17-09-2019, 08:08 PM
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Re: Boris refuses to appear outside with the PM of Luxembourg

Originally Posted by gascony ->
“rent-a-mob right in front of the lecturns[sic]” “allowing the rent-a-gobs to be standing where they were” “organized band of hecklers” “ “Did you notice that the banners were in engish” “Rent a crowd failure. Probably part of Corbyn's mob or Momentum on a day trip.” “a mob of British remainers” “a minority group who think the only way to be heard is to shout louder than anybody else” “Couldnt they have been flown over specially?” “What Brits are these ?”
You sad Brexit fans think that you are so proud of Britain and its values. Yet you ignore the plight of 1.3 million Britons and are disdainful of their plight. You do not demonstrate the values you claim to hold dear for your own countrymen/women. You question their motives and their right to have the concerns heard. They are British - do you not care?
These 1.3m are ignored by the government – they do not count. They are left with massive uncertainty and in many cases distress and trauma. A no deal Brexit would be catastrophic for many in this group. Not a bump in the road, not a few drugs less or a couple of gaps on supermarket shelves. Much worse - work destroying, health destroying, savings destroying. No wonder they are distressed and want to make a point to a fat ignorant self-serving turd of a PM.
The banners were in English because these people are British. Duh. These people wanted to be heard because right now no-one is listening to them. Leaving the UK does not make them not British. They are your fellow country people. Shame on you.
“Like other's I also see it as set up”. You can convince yourself that it was a set up and this was not genuinely British people with genuine and very major concerns. Same as you can convince yourself that Johnson is doing a great job. You are wrong on both counts but, hey, keep yourselves happy and tell each other your false view of the world. But do not claim to be proudly British because you demonstrate none of the British values that we, you, should hold dear.
I have allready posted about the banners and language of
rentagob mob in luxemborg Goscony?
You speak of the 1.3M citizens living in eu and their dreams
and ambitions, what about the dreams and ambitions of the
17.5M citizens that voted leave?
I suspect you are one of that 1.3M? Hence your increasingly
strident protestations on this forum!
I suggest your remedy is to take french citizenship and to
stop whinging??
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17-09-2019, 08:09 PM
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Re: Boris refuses to appear outside with the PM of Luxembourg

Originally Posted by gascony ->
Do we really have a Brexit fan decrying tax avoidance? Waken up!
No you don't, just the pointing out the vicious defence of a tiny country trying to defend it's vested interests to the point of disrespecting a visiting PM of a fellow, still member state. A state who's contributions help to provide the population with a standard of living far superior to the rest of us. But not for much longer eh?
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17-09-2019, 08:15 PM
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Re: Boris refuses to appear outside with the PM of Luxembourg

Originally Posted by Banchory ->
It wasn’t a stunt just brits living abroad venting their anger at an incompetent PM
Yeah that's pretty much it. People on this forum are reading far too much into it. It's to be expected and the hecklers weren't so out of control that an emergency cancellation was required. There is a very strong possibility that Johnson just had nothing to say. It's often the simplest reason that is the most accurate.
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17-09-2019, 08:16 PM
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Re: Boris refuses to appear outside with the PM of Luxembourg

Originally Posted by Bread ->
We could re rig it in about 25 minutes max
Ah come on now Bread, I think you're saying this to support your own narrative. It was a last minute request that couldn't be met.
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17-09-2019, 08:22 PM
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Re: Boris refuses to appear outside with the PM of Luxembourg

Originally Posted by Bread ->
We could re rig it in about 25 minutes max
Mind you, given the nature of the press conference, they should really have had a plan B option indoors. That was definitely amateur. What if it started pissing rain 5 minutes before the start?
 
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