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28-11-2016, 05:17 PM
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I'd pay to leave as long as it didn't go to the EU, but instead to those poor bastards in Aleppo...under siege.
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28-11-2016, 05:23 PM
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I'd pay to leave as long as it didn't go to the EU, but instead to those poor bastards in Aleppo...under siege.
Hi

The rebels in Aleppo, who are using the civilians as hostages are Radical Muslims,

I would not give them a penny.
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28-11-2016, 06:45 PM
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Hi

The rebels in Aleppo, who are using the civilians as hostages are Radical Muslims,

I would not give them a penny.
Yes. People moan about Putin bombing Aleppo as it is killing innocent people. The question remains, if these people are being held hostage by IZAL, might they be better off dead?

Innocent people have always been casualties of war. A decent enemy would capitulate when it is clear there is no way they would win, and hand over their hostages. Even the Nazis did so. Unfortunately, as we all know, IZAL are far from decent people.
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28-11-2016, 07:11 PM
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Yes. People moan about Putin bombing Aleppo as it is killing innocent people. The question remains, if these people are being held hostage by IZAL, might they be better off dead?

Innocent people have always been casualties of war. A decent enemy would capitulate when it is clear there is no way they would win, and hand over their hostages. Even the Nazis did so. Unfortunately, as we all know, IZAL are far from decent people.
I heard an interview the other day with some people in rebel held Aleppo. They were asked why they hadn't gone to the refugee camps when they had the opportunity. They said they had heard the camps were not very good and the children would be cold
I can understand them not wanting to leave their homes but cold or dead, not such a difficult choice I would have thought.
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28-11-2016, 07:52 PM
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I heard an interview the other day with some people in rebel held Aleppo. They were asked why they hadn't gone to the refugee camps when they had the opportunity. They said they had heard the camps were not very good and the children would be cold
I can understand them not wanting to leave their homes but cold or dead, not such a difficult choice I would have thought.
Presumably these were all women. Their men would have left for Europe long before - or joined IZAL.
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28-11-2016, 07:55 PM
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Presumably these were all women. Their men would have left for Europe long before - or joined IZAL.
It was a man with young children JB ...
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28-11-2016, 08:04 PM
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It was a man with young children JB ...
Ah, an under-cover member of IZAL!
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29-11-2016, 02:14 PM
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At any other time, it would be a different proposition. At any other time I would spoil my vote because the entire system is rigged top to bottom.

At this specific time when we need to get BRExit done, voting UKIP is clearly 100% essential because no other party is going to trigger Article 50. Simple as.

Vote Tory in the HOPE that they will keep their promise to trigger Article 50 and just like any other election you will see how manifesto promises turn to dust overnight. It's too great a risk. The country needs to be out of the clutches of these corrupt people. It has to be UKIP first, then BRExit completed, then go back to voting however you want.
Couldn't agree more. I too am hoping that Theresa May has really grown a pair and will do what she is forever telling the British people. that she will trigger Article 50 in March 2017. If she does not, for whatever reason or excuse she gives, that is it as far as I am concerned, she will have betrayed me and every voter who voted to leave the EU. I will then vote for without hesitation, the only party that can ever be trusted to act for the people of Britain who voted and won the right to leave the EU - UKIP.
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29-11-2016, 02:23 PM
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couldn't agree more. I too am hoping that theresa may has really grown a pair and will do what she is forever telling the british people. That she will trigger article 50 in march 2017. If she does not, for whatever reason or excuse she gives, that is it as far as i am concerned, she will have betrayed me and every voter who voted to leave the eu. I will then vote for without hesitation, the only party that can ever be trusted to act for the people of britain who voted and won the right to leave the eu - ukip.
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29-11-2016, 05:41 PM
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The betrayal is that the people of the UK were not told that it is well nigh illegal to leave the EU...not impossible but not without legal process.

and no political party can ignore the law.

(well, nearly none.)
 
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