16-09-2019, 12:03 AM
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Re: LibDems want to revoke Article 50.
Originally Posted by Rainmaker
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My understanding of the latest Lib/dem proposal by Jo Swinton is, that if they win the election, they will rescind Article fifty without consulting the people (via a referendum which they have been so loudly been calling for previously), on the grounds that if people elected them they will have a mandate.Correct me if I'm wrong, but when we voted in the last election and also the refeferedum didn't we give the Conservatives a mandate to take us out of the EU. Yet all parties and especially the Lib/Dems seem to deny this. I would seem that the Lib/Dems have double standards, or do the have none whatsoever.
16-09-2019, 05:41 AM
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Re: LibDems want to revoke Article 50.
HiWhy all the fuss?
They have shot themselves in the foot big time.
Just another bunch of we know better than you elitists.
They have completely misjudged the mood of ordinary voters, who are fed up with the elitists
They have no chance at all of getting into power.
16-09-2019, 11:19 AM
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Re: LibDems want to revoke Article 50.
Originally Posted by Solasch
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Apparently they didn't know what to do with that mandate. At least, after three years that conclusion seems justified. Acting on people's wishes doesn't sit well with conservatives. So they started to fight amongst themselves. They're quite good at that.
At least majority of the Conservatives including those who voted remain but with the exception of the small group who were expelled from the party, are trying to uphold the Democratic vote and want to get the thing done. So far as I'm aware none of them are advocating that they rescind article 50 and then deny the majority who voted to leave the ability to have a say on it. Watching Joe Swinson attempting to justify this on TV was a hilarious interlude of irony and contradictions.
16-09-2019, 11:33 AM
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Re: LibDems want to revoke Article 50.
Originally Posted by Realist
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People really are still failing to see what is happening here. They haven't read the Lisbon Treaty, they still believe the lie and illusion that is Westminster and our political parties. They were abolished in 2009.Everything that remains is just a pantomime to appease the masses until they are ready to finally declare that Westminster is now redundant.
All that will remain in this country will be 'show parliaments' like the Scottish and Welsh things which have very little power of consequence.
What I don't understand is why our MPs seem happy to lose any power and influence they presently possess.
Perhaps they don't really mind because they are inept anyway and passing the buck to foreigners will make their lives easier.
Presumably, they will still be allowed to be an unnecessary burden on the taxpayer without being given any responsibility, a bit like the House of Lards is at present.
I think, though, that the time will come when the dictators in Brussels will realise that they are wasting their money paying for 'show representatives' in this country who serve absolutely no real function. I suppose our MPs can't foresee such a thing, though.
16-09-2019, 11:36 AM
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Re: LibDems want to revoke Article 50.
Originally Posted by Bread
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Lib Dems are the party for people with broken principles.
16-09-2019, 12:14 PM
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Re: LibDems want to revoke Article 50.
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiWhy all the fuss?
They have shot themselves in the foot big time.
Just another bunch of we know better than you elitists.
They have completely misjudged the mood of ordinary voters, who are fed up with the elitists
They have no chance at all of getting into power.
We will have NO say!
If we do get a say it will be ignored again!
Regards Donkeyman!
16-09-2019, 12:15 PM
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Re: LibDems want to revoke Article 50.
Originally Posted by JBR
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Limp Dems is the party for naive snowflakes who have their trendy agendas, but no real understanding of the world around them!
Just listened to Chukka speaking at the lib dem conference.
The hypocritical nonesense is eye watering.
16-09-2019, 12:33 PM
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Re: LibDems want to revoke Article 50.
Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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The voters are being sidelined Swimmy!We will have NO say!
If we do get a say it will be ignored again!
Regards Donkeyman!
We elect Parliament.
The Lib Dems will not be elected after this, end of.
I am far more worried about Corbyn.
16-09-2019, 12:46 PM
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Re: LibDems want to revoke Article 50.
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiWe elect Parliament.
The Lib Dems will not be elected after this, end of.
I am far more worried about Corbyn.
I think the unLib unDems have also ruled themselves out of any coalition as well.
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