27-09-2019, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch
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Can you supply examples of the EU turning against the UK? The whole world observes brits turning against each other, in the parliament, in the courts, on televion and in the streets. And they observe the EU waiting for the british to come up with something sensible.
You are absolutely right of course, but there's an upside: Britain is showing the world we are still a free country, able to argue this out in parliament while peacefully demonstrating on the streets.
We're getting nowhere but the world's enjoying the visuals.
27-09-2019, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by d00d
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We're getting nowhere but the world's enjoying the visuals.
27-09-2019, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveA
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I can't speak in regards to Brexit or Remain, but I do know that over on this side of the pond, "Fake News" is a recent addition to our political scene. The true meaning is "anything reported, that disagrees with one's policy, or criticism of an individual" is Fake News - - -TO THAT PERSON OR PARTY. To the rest of the world it may be suspect or not, depending on their pre-conceived bias regarding the press. It is slowly becoming a part of our everyday life.i'd hate to think of what reporting would have been like in WWII if every setback of our forces, reported in the news (of that day) would have immediately been followed by the cries of "Fake News" by our military commanders.
We're all so mouthy, indiscrete and demanding nowadays,
27-09-2019, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch
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DaveA it may come as a surprise to you, but in ww2 neither the germans nor the allies reported on setbacks. The military commanders saw to that. First not to give the enemy intelligence on its succes, and second not to demoralize the own troops and home front.The bbc had broadcasting in all european languages reporting about the onmarch of the allied forces. It gave hope to occupied countries and demoralized the germans (bbc broadcasted in german too).
One person's "factual report" is another person's BS and so it goes. I don't recall exhilarating victories and dismal defeats (back then) being used to describe the same battle reports on the same day by dueling news agencies and I doubt if it would have been done even without the censorship by the military.
27-09-2019, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveA
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Yes Solasch,in re-reading my post I did state it badly. And, yes, I was aware of the "put a good face on it" for the sake of keeping the spirits up. what I was trying to point out (and did it poorly) was that the reporting back then was similar and censored. With today's news, as the Brexit discussion shows, a portion of the press or broadcast entities are manufacturing outright lies or opinionated examples that seem wildly out of touch with reality, and only appeals to the different sides of the arguments.One person's "factual report" is another person's BS and so it goes. I don't recall exhilarating victories and dismal defeats (back then) being used to describe the same battle reports on the same day by dueling news agencies and I doubt if it would have been done even without the censorship by the military.
The fake news here is attributable to persons, not a paper making things up. What you can observe is certain papers giving predominantly opportunity to people on one side of the discussion.
28-09-2019, 01:32 PM
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Re: Fake News With Brexit Related Polls
Originally Posted by Solasch
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So far, what I have seen, it is more often a report on one (wo)men's statement that splashed in the headlines, presented as true. The statement being incorrect, incomplete or false. The fake news here is attributable to persons, not a paper making things up. What you can observe is certain papers giving predominantly opportunity to people on one side of the discussion.
Even Algazeera is pro remain now! Dont even mention our
Independent BBC!!!
Donkeyman!
28-09-2019, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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Likewise electronic media Solly!Even Algazeera is pro remain now! Dont even mention our
Independent BBC!!!
Donkeyman!
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