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30-09-2019, 09:48 AM
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Who should pay for the EU auditors then? As usual Bread, just nonsense.
Brexit Central...propaganda for dummies.
How are independent auditors that are appointed by the EU and paid for by the EU independent ? They have the "European Court of Auditors" ... all of them on the EU payroll

They are part of the EU gravy train - otherwise they would be using external bodies from outside the EU or in the private sector to do it wouldn't they. They sacked Marta Anderson becuause she exposed the corruption of the EU - now they don't even try to hide it. They've even gone so far as to employ convicted criminal Christine La Garde to head up the ECB

Fullfact - the on-line opinion of the establishment they tell you to accept as the truth

It's Jackanory with a silly name
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30-09-2019, 09:52 AM
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How are independent auditors that are appointed by the EU and paid for by the EU independent ?

They are part of the EU gravy train - otherwise they would be using external bodies from outside the EU or in the private sector to do it wouldn't they. They sacked Marta Anderson becuause she exposed the corruption of the EU - now they don't hide it. They even employ convicted criminal Christine La Garde to head up the ECB

Fullfact - the on-line opinion of the establishment they tell you to accept as the truth
Exactly when place I work is audited it's hugely stressful time and they aren't paid for by the place I work and have on occasions seen people leave the company. If EU ever is properly audited I wouldn't mind betting discrepancies will be found.
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30-09-2019, 01:04 PM
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In all my fifty odd years, I have never seen any politician that is there for OUR good. It's just a case of voting for the best of a bad bunch.
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30-09-2019, 01:07 PM
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Jeez...that old chestnut yet again. You are using the classic courtroom loaded question to suggest the issue you want to promote. Instead of asking, look it up for yourself. Full fact.org. The accounts are fine.
Well swerved, are you a politician?

So you are saying the accounts have been signed off for the financial year 2019/19?
And for how many years going back to the sacking of Ms Andersen?
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30-09-2019, 01:17 PM
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If EU ever is properly audited I wouldn't mind betting discrepancies will be found.
Sure, they did..
EU to investigate Nigel Farage over expenses funded by Arron Banks

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/worl...anks-1.3899885
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30-09-2019, 01:26 PM
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Well swerved, are you a politician?
It is important to stress that around 80% of the EU budget is managed by member states themselves, and not by EU institutions. The EU transfers funds to the national treasuries and then the countries themselves decide which projects to spend the money on. The auditors have called on EU countries to take more care in their spending.

In 2014, the court found that €666m (£524m) from the EU fund that is given to countries to finance projects in underdeveloped areas, was "poor value for money". Poland, for example, built three airports, in Lodz, Rzeszow and Lublin, which have received more than €100m of EU funding, but which have not attracted enough customers to keep them in business.

There are UK-based examples too. In 2008, the Canolfan Cywain rural heritage centre opened in Gwynedd, Wales, after it received £900,000 from the EU structural development fund. It ran into financial difficulties in September 2011 and closed a year later.
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30-09-2019, 01:32 PM
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Well swerved, are you a politician?

So you are saying the accounts have been signed off for the financial year 2019/19?
And for how many years going back to the sacking of Ms Andersen?
Reality Check verdict:*The Court of Auditors has signed the EU accounts every year since 2007, while pointing out that EU countries, once they receive the EU funds, misuse about 4.4% of the total budget.

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2...t-of-auditors/

Each year the ECA audits the EU budget independently and impartially. The Court listens carefully to and takes into account the views of stakeholders in the audit process, such as the European Commission, the European Parliament, and national authorities in member states. However, it does not seek instructions from any of these bodies, nor does it give in to pressure from any of these.
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30-09-2019, 01:51 PM
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Well swerved, are you a politician?


Judging by the amount of ''''statistics''''' he come up with, I would say 'Yes'.
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30-09-2019, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch ->
It is important to stress that around 80% of the EU budget is managed by member states themselves, and not by EU institutions. The EU transfers funds to the national treasuries and then the countries themselves decide which projects to spend the money on. The auditors have called on EU countries to take more care in their spending.

In 2014, the court found that €666m (£524m) from the EU fund that is given to countries to finance projects in underdeveloped areas, was "poor value for money". Poland, for example, built three airports, in Lodz, Rzeszow and Lublin, which have received more than €100m of EU funding, but which have not attracted enough customers to keep them in business.

There are UK-based examples too. In 2008, the Canolfan Cywain rural heritage centre opened in Gwynedd, Wales, after it received £900,000 from the EU structural development fund. It ran into financial difficulties in September 2011 and closed a year later.
But what has that to do with misappropriation of funds? If you have a legitimate project which subsequently makes a loss that doesn't make it a fraudulent transaction.
 
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