02-04-2019, 08:46 AM
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Re: Jacob Rees-Mogg
Originally Posted by OldFogey
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His supporters tend to forget that, when discussing Brexit a couple of years back, he said in the HOC that he was more than happy to have any final proposal for Brexit be put to the electorate for their final approval.My, how things have changed.
02-04-2019, 11:11 AM
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Re: Jacob Rees-Mogg
Originally Posted by Julie1962
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Yes they do change and if you listen to his reasons for not wanting another referendum it makes sense as we are in danger of fracturing our country further if we do, I don't think any of us leave or remain imagined this when we originally voted. If remainers had accepted the original vote we wouldn't be in this mess. I have no confidence they would accept another and if it went the other way I wouldn't now accept it as remainers have led the way I don't think democracy counts anymore.
02-04-2019, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch
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If you are open to change (life IS change, they say), then you are open to another, this time binding, referendum.
02-04-2019, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Julie1962
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Nope because I don't trust anyone suggests the last one wasn't binding. If they won't enact the first why should I believe they will respect another. I'm at this moment so disillusioned with the electoral system I threw away my voting card for coming election. Not interested in the farcical idea we have a vote anymore.
I am fortunate (in a way) to have lived at the time when Britain lost her democracy. Something that no-one could have foreseen after all these centuries.
Unless, of course, our rulers eventually see sense.
14-04-2019, 05:38 AM
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Re: Jacob Rees-Mogg
Originally Posted by JBR
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I am fortunate (in a way) to have lived at the time when Britain lost her democracy. Something that no-one could have foreseen after all these centuries.
You live in a parliamentary democracy, not a plebiscitary one.
Be proud of it.
Be proud to be British.
(See - I can do humbug too).
14-04-2019, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by OldFogey
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JBR - you have a line in pretentious humbug that takes some beating!You live in a parliamentary democracy, not a plebiscitary one.
Be proud of it.
Be proud to be British.
(See - I can do humbug too).
No Tick, No Job!
They are employed by us!
I hope they remember this whilst shilly shallying.
14-04-2019, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Tedc
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To get the job (or keep the job) MPs have to get a tick in the box.No Tick, No Job!
They are employed by us!
I hope they remember this whilst shilly shallying.
To save everyone a lot of trouble every few years, the idea is that the Tories and the Loonies have agreed to simply have five years each in turn in government.
No need for all of this tiresome electioneering and having to appeal to voters on the telly and in the media, and it will save a lot of money running general elections.
After all, it seems to work already: Loonies spend all of our money for five years, then the Tories have a five year period of austerity to get the finances back on track, ready for the next five years.
14-04-2019, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JBR
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Actually, I hear that May & Compo have an excellent plan in mind for reformation of our voting system.To save everyone a lot of trouble every few years, the idea is that the Tories and the Loonies have agreed to simply have five years each in turn in government.
No need for all of this tiresome electioneering and having to appeal to voters on the telly and in the media, and it will save a lot of money running general elections.
After all, it seems to work already: Loonies spend all of our money for five years, then the Tories have a five year period of austerity to get the finances back on track, ready for the next five years.
The americans have that system for decades. Works for them, so why not for you?
14-04-2019, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by JBR
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Loonies spend all of our money for five years, then the Tories have a five year period of austerity to get the finances back on track, ready for the next five years.
14-04-2019, 03:53 PM
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What happens is the Tories cut back everything to the bone and then labour have to spend a fortune bringing it back to normal services so we have an infrastructure where kids are not going to school hungry and the disabled and sick are not left helpless and abandoned. £4bn wasted on Brexit no deal planning so far.|
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