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28-05-2019, 02:50 PM
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The pharmaceutical sector is one of the most productive in the UK, with a turnover
of £41.8 billion, providing 8.2 per cent of UK goods exports and employing more
than 113,000 people, directly or in service and supply roles. The sector is a mixture
of large UK-headquartered firms such as AstraZeneca and GSK, manufacturing and
research sites for other global companies, and a significant proportion of SMEs and
microbusinesses, researching and manufacturing branded, generic and over-the-
counter medicines for UK patients and consumers and for a global market. The sector
is part of heavily integrated EU supply chain that relies on the friction-free transfer of
ingredients and finished products to ensure access to medicines across the continent.
Leaving the EU without a deal for pharmaceuticals would risk a hugely damaging effect
on the sector in the UK, as access to markets diminish, including £11.9 billion of exports
and more than 446 million potential patients and consumers in the EU. It would also
risk a damaging effect on UK patients. With 73 per cent of pharmaceutical imports
coming from the EU, access to pharmaceutical products could be reduced, and as only
2.3 per cent of the global market compared to the EU27’s more than 22 per cent, the UK
may become a less attractive location to launch new medicines. Global efforts to remove
tariffs on pharmaceutical products mean that tariff costs for trading many established
products in the EU would be zero, but slow progress on World Trade Organisation
negotiations means many new medicines and ingredients will still be subject to tariffs.
These might be funded by the taxpayer having to underwrite extra costs to the National
Health Service as the main customer for pharmaceuticals.
Non-tariff barriers present a significant challenge to the industry, with any time- or
temperature-sensitive products delayed at the border at risk of not reaching their
destinations in a condition to be of benefit to patients. Additional costs and requirements
for the processing of customs procedures will, as with tariff costs, either burden
businesses or the NHS. We heard no evidence of a potential for the UK to replace the
EU supply chain for products with a domestic one.


There aren't tariffs on pharmaceuticals under the WTO Pharmaceutical Tarrif Elimination Agreement ...
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28-05-2019, 02:55 PM
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India makes generics.
Sorry Bread generics came out genetics my end
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28-05-2019, 02:56 PM
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Sorry Bread generics came out genetics my end
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No worries DM.
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28-05-2019, 03:21 PM
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Sorry Bread generics came out genetics my end
Please ignore this post!
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Generics work just as well as brands, but are much cheaper. The NHS preferentially uses generics. Here, with insurance based health care, and insurance companies demanding pharmacists to supply the cost effective version, we have mainly generics.
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28-05-2019, 03:28 PM
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The reason deals are being sought with India Solly is the
the western manufacturers have been colluding with each
other to force prices up and the cost of medicine is now
almost prohibitive, India decided to manufacture its own
medicines in contravention of patent laws so it could supply
its own population with affordable treatments!
They now supply many other poor countries with these
cheaper drugs, l suspect the EU will purchase these cheap
medicines and sell them on at EU prices! or they will
undercut eu manufacturers!
I know this is not all eu related, but it gives an indication
of how pharmacutical firms and trading blocks are able to
skew the cost of medicines to the end user!

Regards Donkeyman!
Sorry donk, but that is total rubbish. The pharmaceutical industry in india is owned here in the west (even british). The cheaper production is due to the fact that patents owned by the brand holder have expired, allowing every pharmaceutical firm to produce them.
The high price during patented period is to allow the brand holder to get his development costs back.
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29-05-2019, 04:58 AM
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Re: Tory party - no hard BREXIT.

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There aren't tariffs on pharmaceuticals under the WTO Pharmaceutical Tarrif Elimination Agreement ...
Hi

It is not quite as simple as that.

This is a long read but explains the problems.

This is what I mean by being not ready for No Deal.

It is our Government letting down our industries.

https://iea.org.uk/brexit-and-pharma...rom-reality-2/
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29-05-2019, 06:47 AM
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Re: Tory party - no hard BREXIT.

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There aren't tariffs on pharmaceuticals under the WTO Pharmaceutical Tarrif Elimination Agreement ...
Not quite true.
There are no tariffs for those pharmaceuticals that are on the agreement lists however the list does is not all inclusive and has not been updated since 2010 so will not include the latest treatments.

The real issue lies in the non tariff barriers
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29-05-2019, 08:19 AM
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Not quite true.
There are no tariffs for those pharmaceuticals that are on the agreement lists however the list does is not all inclusive and has not been updated since 2010 so will not include the latest treatments.

The real issue lies in the non tariff barriers
And what are these non tariff barriers applied to pharmaceuticals,?
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29-05-2019, 09:44 AM
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And what are these non tariff barriers applied to pharmaceuticals,?
What is a non tariff barrier?
A tariff is a barrier against cheaper goods entering a
country!

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29-05-2019, 09:47 AM
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Re: Tory party - no hard BREXIT.

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
Sorry donk, but that is total rubbish. The pharmaceutical industry in india is owned here in the west (even british). The cheaper production is due to the fact that patents owned by the brand holder have expired, allowing every pharmaceutical firm to produce them.
The high price during patented period is to allow the brand holder to get his development costs back.
Strange how all the patents expired at the same time Solly?

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