20-08-2018, 09:03 PM
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Re: Monarchs
Originally Posted by morticia
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you think that's confusing ..Try this.
I think the beginning and end of a year used to be calculated by the regnal year ... So, 6 henry ii ..would actually be the sixth year of the reign of henry ii and it began on his coronation date.
A right headache.
20-08-2018, 09:16 PM
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Re: Monarchs
Originally Posted by Besoeker
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So why did James VI become James I after the Union of the Crowns in 1603?
It wasn't until The Acts of Union passed by each Parliament in 1706 & 1707 that we became a fully United Kingdom.
20-08-2018, 09:21 PM
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Re: Monarchs
Originally Posted by Boot
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As far as I am aware, the Union of the Crowns in 1603 didn't create one United Kingdom. James VI of Scotland inherited the throne of England as James I and was effectively wearing 2 separate crowns of two autonomous states, with separate Parliaments.It wasn't until The Acts of Union passed by each Parliament in 1706 & 1707 that we became a fully United Kingdom.
21-08-2018, 11:16 PM
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Re: Monarchs
Originally Posted by Morticia
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Having said that I don't know where the Welsh stand on this before they were conquered by Edward I... whether they recongise William I, William II or the Norman and Angevin kings.
Henry I , 4th son of William the Conqueror had his way with Princess Nest of Wales. She was married to Gerald of Windsor, constable of Windsor Castle and she was the only legitimate daughter of the last King of South Wales.
It is said that Princess Nest had numerous illegitimate children by Henry I and it was his way of infiltrating the then country which was called Cambria during the Roman period.
Two of Henry's illegitimate sons to Nest, Philip le Waleys and Richard le Waleys ( I think I've got both names right but there were two of them) went to Ireland to fight and the Welshmen were referred to as Le Waleys. I assume that is where the name Wales came from . Philips son Haylen le Waleys went to fight in Ireland with Strongbow the name changed to Walsh.
It later became Wallace ('Waleys') in Scotland.
The Wallace family first went to Scotland in 11th Century . William Wallace son of Sir Malcolm Wallace son of Adam Le Waleys descended from Guillaume de Waleys. (or so I have read)
Robert de Bruce died around 1305 , widow Eleanor married a Sir Richard Le Waleys of Burgh Wallis , Yorkshire.
To me it appears that the 'Waleys' and descendants of Henry I have managed to creep around the British Isles starting in Wales and retained their influence as fairly powerful positions and land owners.
Needless to say there's loads more which is more entangled than Miss Havisham's cobwebs.
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