21-10-2018, 12:06 PM
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Re: Is Democracy Dead?
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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I thought that was Parliament's job. Give people the illusion they have some say and will get what they want and then deliver exactly the opposite. It's what always happens after an election does it not? Don't forget that Brexit will not fix the above.
21-10-2018, 12:32 PM
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Re: Is Democracy Dead?
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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I thought that was Parliament's job. Give people the illusion they have some say and will get what they want and then deliver exactly the opposite. It's what always happens after an election does it not? Don't forget that Brexit will not fix the above.
I'm hoping by time my kids kids are voting things will be unrecognisable in a good way.
21-10-2018, 12:43 PM
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Re: Is Democracy Dead?
Originally Posted by Solasch
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In this case, give the people a referendum, and although they vote to leave, stay in the warm bath that is the EU?
Btw , Are you not aware that we had a referendum and Remain lost ,lol!
21-10-2018, 12:44 PM
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Re: Is Democracy Dead?
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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It's interesting that you have that view, but it's totally incorrect.
21-10-2018, 01:17 PM
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Re: Is Democracy Dead?
Originally Posted by Moscow
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The warm bath lost it's heat a long time since and it's too expensive to keep topping up the bathBtw , Are you not aware that we had a referendum and Remain lost ,lol!
21-10-2018, 01:46 PM
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Re: Is Democracy Dead?
Originally Posted by Moscow
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In what sense is it incorrect, bearing in mind you will almost certainly have misunderstood where I'm coming from!
In bulgaria 7.7% is muslim, in belgium 5.2%. In great britain 4,7%. Take into account the differences in size of population, than the largest contingency lives in GB. And there you have a minority that is going to change its status post brexit.
21-10-2018, 01:57 PM
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Re: Is Democracy Dead?
Originally Posted by Solasch
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Your assumption is: a minority (like the Scots) cannot change its status.In bulgaria 7.7% is muslim, in belgium 5.2%. In great britain 4,7%. Take into account the differences in size of population, than the largest contingency lives in GB. And there you have a minority that is going to change its status post brexit.
A Scot is a Scot and always will be. It's immutable.
A person's sexuality is immutable.
Political opinion is fluid, changeable and therefore a political viewpoint can not be considered a minority in the sense you origimnally referred to and so therefore political opinion does not need protecting.
21-10-2018, 02:06 PM
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Re: Is Democracy Dead?
Originally Posted by Solasch
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Of course, but AnnieS stated it is your parliaments tradition to deliver the opposite. My post was reacting to her post. Kindly take the time to read a post's history.
I'm guessing you are a Dutch national and I'm guessing that what's really happening is that you can't actually imagine what it must be like to be British and not feel that it is possible to exist outwith the EU.
The Netherlands couldn't.
The UK can.
It'sdifferent being British. I understand why you find that threatening.
21-10-2018, 02:17 PM
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Re: Is Democracy Dead?
Originally Posted by Moscow
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No, you misunderstand.A Scot is a Scot and always will be. It's immutable.
A person's sexuality is immutable.
Political opinion is fluid, changeable and therefore a political viewpoint can not be considered a minority in the sense you origimnally referred to and so therefore political opinion does not need protecting.
21-10-2018, 02:33 PM
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Re: Is Democracy Dead?
Originally Posted by Moscow
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Kindly don't patronise .Your whole attitude on this forum is one of smugly thinking your stating the ' bleedin obvious' when all you are really doing is showing utter contempt to the British electorate for voting Leave.I'm guessing you are a Dutch national and I'm guessing that what's really happening is that you can't actually imagine what it must be like to be British and not feel that it is possible to exist outwith the EU.
The Netherlands couldn't.
The UK can.
It'sdifferent being British. I understand why you find that threatening.
The dutch have been a sea faring trading people for ages. The choice for common safety (Hanze cities mean anything), strong naval forces, was called for by men like Drake. We are more like the brits than you think. Weren't you drawn to the EEC for economic gain?
Therefore the dutch difficulty to understand a choice to leave. It is contrary to what you might expect of a country with your history.
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