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Instead of spending billions on HS2 which few people will get any benefit from, why not spend that money on adding extra motorway lanes instead. heaven knows we need those extra lanes. Ever tried getting to London Airport for example you need to allow and extra couple of days just to get there
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27-01-2020, 12:31 PM
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I guess that someone is teaching all those foreign tourists, and Truck Drivers, who are sitting there driving from the left seat of their vehicle, how to deal with this amazing idea?

We need to remind all our families that they should get out of a broken down car and climb over the railings ASAP.Trouble is, that only helps with those broken down - the car which runs into it is still a problem!

Talking about it on Jeremy Vine at the moment!
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27-01-2020, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by realspeed ->
Instead of spending billions on HS2 which few people will get any benefit from, why not spend that money on adding extra motorway lanes instead. heaven knows we need those extra lanes. Ever tried getting to London Airport for example you need to allow and extra couple of days just to get there
The cost of HS2 is very high and with BREXIT its value is much reduced but investment in anything that will take road vehicles, especially polution fossil fuel burners off our roads and not damaging OUR environment MUST be worthwhile.

A very good start in that direction will be when our national speed limit is reduced to 80 kmh and rationing of fuel and maybe even road use introduced along with a pay per km surcharge.
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27-01-2020, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
The cost of HS2 is very high and with BREXIT its value is much reduced but investment in anything that will take road vehicles, especially polution fossil fuel burners off our roads and not damaging OUR environment MUST be worthwhile.

A very good start in that direction will be when our national speed limit is reduced to 80 kmh and rationing of fuel and maybe even road use introduced along with a pay per km surcharge.
You are being delusional if you think that people will give up their cars to travel on an extremely expensive train. Train fares are exorbitant now, so goodness knows how much HS2 fares will be if the carbuncle ever gets built.
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27-01-2020, 02:38 PM
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You are being delusional if you think that people will give up their cars to travel on an extremely expensive train. Train fares are exorbitant now, so goodness knows how much HS2 fares will be if the carbuncle ever gets built.
So price people out of their cars and introduce other measures such as rationing of fuel and road use taxes based on distance.

OUR environment simply can not afford people to use polution forms of transport. That is the thing that is unaffordable.

I agree that HS2 has lost its attraction after BREXIT but a huge rethink where public transportation must take place. There is no alternative.
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27-01-2020, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
The cost of HS2 is very high and with BREXIT its value is much reduced but investment in anything that will take road vehicles, especially polution fossil fuel burners off our roads and not damaging OUR environment MUST be worthwhile.

A very good start in that direction will be when our national speed limit is reduced to 80 kmh and rationing of fuel and maybe even road use introduced along with a pay per km surcharge.
We have MPH not KMH , don,t know where you are but certainly not in the UK
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27-01-2020, 03:34 PM
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So is anybody able to answer the question I asked back in post 4, about where are we supposed to pull over if we have a break down now, and are they removing the motorway phones along the hard shoulders?

Who would dare to stop and use one of the phones with traffic thundering by just inches from them?
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27-01-2020, 03:39 PM
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We have MPH not KMH , don,t know where you are but certainly not in the UK
I've been using SI units since my undergrad days. It's a thing that "came with the territory" for what I was reading.
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27-01-2020, 04:27 PM
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No - but I don't often travel on motorways!
You're lucky!
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27-01-2020, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Judd ->
You are being delusional if you think that people will give up their cars to travel on an extremely expensive train. Train fares are exorbitant now, so goodness knows how much HS2 fares will be if the carbuncle ever gets built.
Exactly.

It is often cheaper to fly on a domestic flight than to travel by rail. Marge has, for example, flown to appointments in Aberdeen because it's both quicker and cheaper.

If an when the HS2 white elephant is ever completed, I can imagine that the carriages will be virtually empty and income from fares almost non-existent.

Of course, the people who decide to proceed with HS2 live in Cloud Cuckoo Land.
 
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