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25-12-2019, 07:50 PM
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The deal boris negotiated contains the same financial arrangement. Logically.

What is included in the settlement?
Broadly speaking, the settlement can be split into three components:
• During the transition period, until 2020, the UK will pay into the EU budget
almost as if it were a Member State. The UK will also receive funding from EU
programmes – such as structural funding – as if it were a Member State.
• EU annual budgets commit to some future spending without making payments to
recipients at the time. The commitments will become payments in the future. The
UK will contribute towards the EU’s outstanding commitments as at 31
December 2020. Recipients in the UK will also receive funding for outstanding
commitments made to them.
• The UK will share the financing of some EU liabilities as at the end of 2020, and
any materialising contingent liabilities, and will receive back a share of some
assets. The pensions of EU staff are likely to be the most significant liabilities for the
UK, while the most significant item being returned to the UK is the capital it paid
into the European Investment Bank (EIB).
Not everything in the settlement fits neatly into these three components. For instance, the
UK has agreed to continue to contribute to the EU’s main overseas aid programme – the
European Development Fund – until the current programme ends. This programme is funded directly by Member States, rather than through the EU budget. The UK’s
contribution counts towards its commitment to spend 0.7% of national income on
overseas aid.
The Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) – the UK’s public finances watchdog – expect
that the UK will make payments into the 2060s, with around 70% of the cost coming in
the first 4 years.
Time will tell. At the end of the day if we say no what are the European Commission going to do?

Once were free then we're free.

In any case the EU has started to implode.
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25-12-2019, 08:53 PM
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Time will tell. At the end of the day if we say no what are the European Commission going to do?

Once were free then we're free.

In any case the EU has started to implode.
Oh, that is very simple. As long as the bill is not settled, no trade negotiations can start. Parliament cannot give the necessary mandate.
But no fear, the EU=UK needs the UK=EU more than the UK=EU needs the EU=UK. So trade negotiations will start some time in the future.
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Oh, that is very simple. As long as the bill is not settled, no trade negotiations can start. Parliament cannot give the necessary mandate.
But no fear, the EU=UK needs the UK=EU more than the UK=EU needs the EU=UK. So trade negotiations will start some time in the future.
We have the whole world with which to negotiate trade deals and even then trade under WTO will continue if not increase under even better terms than have been possible under the EU terms.

The EU do not hold the whip hand --- not any more. As for our Parliament, it can do as it wants now we have a proper English dominated government again.
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26-12-2019, 01:15 PM
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we have the whole world with which to negotiate trade deals and even then trade under wto will continue if not increase under even better terms than have been possible under the eu terms.

The eu do not hold the whip hand --- not any more. As for our parliament, it can do as it wants now we have a proper english dominated government again.
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27-12-2019, 04:51 PM
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Oh, that is very simple. As long as the bill is not settled, no trade negotiations can start. Parliament cannot give the necessary mandate.
But no fear, the EU=UK needs the UK=EU more than the UK=EU needs the EU=UK. So trade negotiations will start some time in the future.
Gobbledegook Solly!!
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27-12-2019, 05:30 PM
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When the Boris deal is approved,, it becomes a legal agreement and breaking it would result in action in the International Courts.

We would have to pay, end of.
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Hi

When the Boris deal is approved,, it becomes a legal agreement and breaking it would result in action in the International Courts.

We would have to pay, end of.
In which court(s) and what sanctions could be applied though?

Answer in reality --- NONE.
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27-12-2019, 08:18 PM
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In which court(s) and what sanctions could be applied though?

Answer in reality --- NONE.


Project Fear continues!
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27-12-2019, 10:01 PM
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In which court(s) and what sanctions could be applied though?

Answer in reality --- NONE.
That you know none isn't the same as there are none. Try a simple google search on "international court of".

You are right is so far as the fact that britain has a reputation for being in violation of court rulings. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-50924704
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Project Fear continues!
The only fear existed among brexiters, afraid people would find out the truth.
 
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