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Re: Trans people want to return to original gender

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It's an interesting point about age. On the one hand "we" don't allow youngsters to vote until they are 18, presumably partly down to the view of when they become (supposedly) mature enough to understand the full implications, and yet the age of consent is 16. Not really sure why the disparity remains in place (one way or the other), nor indeed which way it "ought" to be amended.

Although not strictly on topic, but not entirely off it, surely there "ought" to be some kind of age restriction for (eg breast and lip) enhancement plastic surgery.
I believe people have to be over 18 for that as well, Dex.
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09-10-2019, 10:37 PM
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Re: Trans people want to return to original gender

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I believe people have to be over 18 for that as well, Dex.
Ah. Wasn't sure. Just seem to recall how some youngsters have some kind of processes carried out at a much earlier age. Maybe I'm thinking of extensive tattoos and piercings?
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09-10-2019, 10:54 PM
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Re: Trans people want to return to original gender

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It's an interesting point about age. On the one hand "we" don't allow youngsters to vote until they are 18, presumably partly down to the view of when they become (supposedly) mature enough to understand the full implications, and yet the age of consent is 16. Not really sure why the disparity remains in place (one way or the other), nor indeed which way it "ought" to be amended.

Although not strictly on topic, but not entirely off it, surely there "ought" to be some kind of age restriction for (eg breast and lip) enhancement plastic surgery.
Supporters of transgender, be it medical professionals and legal professionals say that children as young as 5 are able to determine if they are transgender or not and as they get older, they are able to make their own informed decision about which direction they want to take.

This past year there have been numerous articles of children as young as 9 saying they know they are not in the right body and want to change. This then furthers the issue of schools having to decide on changing the toilets to include transgenders so they do not feel out of place. Again, this is something that has been in the tabloid press and doing the rounds in online media for some time but the crux of the whole matter is how this all ties in with the point that is made in Dex's post.

Consent for sexual intercourse is 16. To vote it is 18, 18 to buy alcohol, 18 to buy legal drugs, 17 to drive a car, all quite heavy major decisions but regardless of all of that, it is socially accepted that children as young as 9 can decided what sex they want to be. It would therefore seem deciding on ones sex is not so important as deciding on who to vote for is!!!!. What a messed up society we live in.
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09-10-2019, 10:57 PM
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Re: Trans people want to return to original gender

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Supporters of transgender, be it medical professionals and legal professionals say that children as young as 5 are able to determine if they are transgender or not and as they get older, they are able to make their own informed decision about which direction they want to take.

This past year there have been numerous articles of children as young as 9 saying they know they are not in the right body and want to change. This then furthers the issue of schools having to decide on changing the toilets to include transgenders so they do not feel out of place. Again, this is something that has been in the tabloid press and doing the rounds in online media for some time but the crux of the whole matter is how this all ties in with the point that is made in Dex's post.

Consent for sexual intercourse is 16. To vote it is 18, 18 to buy alcohol, 18 to buy legal drugs, 17 to drive a car, all quite heavy major decisions but regardless of all of that, it is socially accepted that children as young as 9 can decided what sex they want to be. It would therefore seem deciding on ones sex is not so important as deciding on who to vote for is!!!!. What a messed up society we live in
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Fair comments there, Dodge.
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09-10-2019, 11:30 PM
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I'm surprised Compo isn't one of these. Perhaps he is.
He certainly can't make up his mind, anyway.
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12-10-2019, 10:26 AM
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Re: Trans people want to return to original gender

Didn't Elvis have a song about this?

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12-10-2019, 10:42 AM
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You are funny Judd.

I think there should be a much higher age at which people may transgender - say 21. I do not believe a child of say 15 or 16 is able to make such a radical decision.
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12-10-2019, 11:11 AM
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Re: Trans people want to return to original gender

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You are funny Judd.

I think there should be a much higher age at which people may transgender - say 21. I do not believe a child of say 15 or 16 is able to make such a radical decision.
Agreed.

I also think that once they have decided and undergone the change, they should not be allowed to change back again when the novelty wears off.

Either that, or such things should not be done on the NHS.

The NHS is already oversubscribed and having to delay or cancel operations, etc. It should be used only for the more serious illnesses that cannot be self-treated.
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13-10-2019, 11:39 AM
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The one thing in favour of the increase of "Trans-gender" people is that it results in a reduction of deviants reproducing.
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I have a friend who changed from a man to a woman. He had the operation and regretted it.
He felt suicidal at times and became a Counsellor to very young men who were going through the same thing.

Up until knowing her, (l won’t insult him by calling her, him) l had the same feelings about transvestites/transgenders. You know, nudge nudge, wink wink and a bit of a giggle.

But...knowing her, her feelings, her torment, what she had to put up with from her family, the general public was horrendous and cruel.
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