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Oooh no, private and the ones round here are not cheap either. They start around 300K I believe so they are definitely not starter homes. How that will help the housing shortage, I have no idea.
There has been a huge amount of houses built around this area. Who on Earth is buying them unless it's Buy to Let landlords?

I can't see young couples being able to afford them.
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That should be the policy Mups, but unfortunately its only
practised on cmmercial plantations on a large scale!
A lot of paper is made from long fibre softwoods. Coniferous. Much of that is from Scandinavian countries. The have a fast growing species and they are replanted at a rate that keeps stock levels up.

Nowadays, recycling paper waste is quite big business.
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16-07-2019, 05:15 PM
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Every plant in a pot grows unrestrained (having enough light and water) until the pot is starting to restrain. That is the moment to place it in a bigger pot.

A big tree has deposited a lot of carbondioxide. The moment you cut it, and most are cut to burn, the deposited carbon is released again as carbondioxide.
Wood in a landfil will release it's carbon due by being broken down by fungi.

The influence of the rainforest is mainly on water, and local. Influence of trees, forests in our region on earth, is nil.
I agree Solly that most trees in land clearance are burned
and that is part of the problem, the other is that when it rains
now the land gets eroded by the run off and contributes to
loss of topsoil etc, including landslides and collapse of
infrastructure!
However plantations are never burned as the timber cut is
a commercial product, and the trees are relaced almost
immediately
We need a coordinated world wide plan to make any real
difference to the climate!

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16-07-2019, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Besoeker ->
A lot of paper is made from long fibre softwoods. Coniferous. Much of that is from Scandinavian countries. The have a fast growing species and they are replanted at a rate that keeps stock levels up.

Nowadays, recycling paper waste is quite big business.
That is correct Besoeker, they have hybridised some of the
pine species to mature in about 8 - 10 yrs! But it should be
possible to run a plantation without using these if we are
more patient and reschedule our production plans!

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16-07-2019, 05:28 PM
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Re: Trees

Originally Posted by Besoeker ->
A lot of paper is made from long fibre softwoods. Coniferous. Much of that is from Scandinavian countries. The have a fast growing species and they are replanted at a rate that keeps stock levels up.

Nowadays, recycling paper waste is quite big business.
All the more reason to start using paper packaging bagain
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16-07-2019, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
That is correct Besoeker, they have hybridised some of the
pine species to mature in about 8 - 10 yrs! But it should be
possible to run a plantation without using these if we are
more patient and reschedule our production plans!

Regards Donkeyman!
You mean ration the supply of paper?
And thus grow fewer trees?
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16-07-2019, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Besoeker ->
You mean ration the supply of paper?
And thus grow fewer trees?
You almost lost me there Besoeker, no l suggested? that it may not be neccassary to use hybrid trees not that we should not
use them, l see no reason not to use them!
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Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
You almost lost me there Besoeker, no l suggested? that it may not be neccassary to use hybrid trees not that we should not
use them, l see no reason not to use them!
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If you plant trees to bind carbodioxide, and turn the trees in paper that is incinerated or dropped in a landfill, it turns into carbodioxide, your efforts to bind carbondioxide are neutralized.
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16-07-2019, 10:06 PM
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Re: Trees

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
If you plant trees to bind carbodioxide, and turn the trees in paper that is incinerated or dropped in a landfill, it turns into carbodioxide, your efforts to bind carbondioxide are neutralized.
No Solly, you can recycle paper very easily, therefore it
is ideal to replace plastic for packaging, just as we used to
do, but better due to more advanced tech!!
As you also point out it should help to relieve pressure
on landfill sites?

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16-07-2019, 10:20 PM
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Re: Trees

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
If you plant trees to bind carbodioxide, and turn the trees in paper that is incinerated or dropped in a landfill, it turns into carbodioxide, your efforts to bind carbondioxide are neutralized.
Most residences here have recycle refuse bins where anything that can be recycled is collected by the local council and sent to waste recycling plants.

I have dealt with a lot of process plants where recycled waste was their main, or sometimes only, source of material.
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