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24-05-2020, 05:29 PM
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Re: More Brexit Doom and Gloom...... NOT !

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Your the one that thinks the ECJ has powers outside the EU not me.

You don't even know where you were born

Or anything else for that matter
Well, I checked what you stated, about the WA ending. However much I looked at the WA I couldn't find an article on the termination. But there isn't, so it isn't. And you can't proof otherwise.
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24-05-2020, 05:54 PM
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Well, I checked what you stated, about the WA ending. However much I looked at the WA I couldn't find an article on the termination. But there isn't, so it isn't. And you can't proof otherwise.

There's an end date.

31st December 2020.
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24-05-2020, 06:13 PM
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Re: More Brexit Doom and Gloom...... NOT !

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There's an end date.

31st December 2020.
For the adaptation period, not for the duration of the UK's withdrawal. We really don't want you back inside, you must stay out!
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24-05-2020, 06:19 PM
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For the adaptation period, not for the duration of the UK's withdrawal. We really don't want you back inside, you must stay out!

It doesn't sound like it to me, you're getting more desperate by the day and making up weird stories that aren't true.

The WA ends on 31st December 2020 I take it you haven't read it, or don't understand it

Its not surprising, your performance on EU related issues has been consistently childish and uninformed.
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24-05-2020, 06:20 PM
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Has been that way for decades. And the (formosa) chinese thank you for it. They take your innovations and manufacture the products for competing prices.
Yes, they are great duplicators

The Great Pretenders

Why don't people in th Uk understand that 'British is Best'
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24-05-2020, 06:31 PM
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Yes, they are great duplicators

The Great Pretenders

Why don't people in th Uk understand that 'British is Best'
That may well be true for british grown produce. For duplicates its the specifications that determine the quality. Dyson developed his vacuum system in britain. Production however is in singapore. The brit doing best on your principle is mr. Dyson.
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24-05-2020, 09:35 PM
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It doesn't sound like it to me, you're getting more desperate by the day and making up weird stories that aren't true.

The WA ends on 31st December 2020 I take it you haven't read it, or don't understand it

Its not surprising, your performance on EU related issues has been consistently childish and uninformed.
Seems the EU had foreseen persons like you would be misunderstanding the WA. They made some explanatory texts for the likes of you.

How will ongoing judicial proceedings between companies be dealt with after the end of the transition period?

By way of example, at the end of the transition period litigation may be pending between a Dutch company and a UK company before a UK court.

The responsibility of the UK court for hearing the case is established by EU law. According to the Withdrawal Agreement, after the end of the transition period, the UK court remains competent for hearing that case on the basis of EU law.

In another example, at the end of the transition period, a company may be in legal proceedings against a UK company before a French court.

According to the Withdrawal Agreement, after the end of the transition period, EU law on the recognition and enforcement of judgements continues to apply to the recognition and enforcement, in the United Kingdom, of the judgement rendered by the French court.*

Lots of other information for you at the site. Enjoy!
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/pres...n/qanda_20_104

Here is a real treat for you!

Ongoing Union judicial and administrative procedures

Under the Withdrawal Agreement, the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) will remain competent for*judicial procedures*concerning the United Kingdom registered at the CJEU before the end of the transition period, and those procedures should continue until a final binding judgment is given in accordance with Union rules. All stages of proceedings are concerned, including appeals or referrals back to the General Court. This allows for pending cases to reach completion in an orderly way.

While the above solves the issue of pending cases, it will also be possible to bring certain cases concerning the United Kingdom before the CJEU for a resolution according to Union rules after the end of the transition period.

The Agreement provides that, within four years from the end of the transition period, the Commission may bring before the CJEU new infringement cases against the United Kingdom, concerning breaches of Union law which occurred before the end of the transition period.

Within the same period, the United Kingdom may also be brought before the CJEU for non-compliance with an administrative decision of a Union institution or body taken before the end of the transition period or, for certain procedures specifically identified in the Agreement, after the end of the transition period.

The CJEU jurisdiction for these new cases is consistent with the principle that the termination of a Treaty shall not affect any right, obligation or legal situation of the parties created prior to its termination. This ensures legal certainty and a level playing field between the EU Member States and the United Kingdom, with respect to situations occurring when the United Kingdom was under Union law obligations.

For what concerns*administrative procedures, the Withdrawal Agreement provides that pending procedures shall continue to be handled according to Union rules. This concerns procedures on issues such as competition and state aid, which were initiated before the end of the transition period by institutions, offices and agencies of the Union, and which concern the United Kingdom or UK natural or legal persons.

In respect of aid granted before the end of the transition period, for a period of four years after the end of the transition period, the European Commission shall be competent to initiate*new administrative procedures on State aid*concerning the United Kingdom. The Commission shall be competent after the end of that four year period for procedures initiated before the end of that period.
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24-05-2020, 10:10 PM
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Re: More Brexit Doom and Gloom...... NOT !

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
Seems the EU had foreseen persons like you would be misunderstanding the WA. They made some explanatory texts for the likes of you.

How will ongoing judicial proceedings between companies be dealt with after the end of the transition period?

By way of example, at the end of the transition period litigation may be pending between a Dutch company and a UK company before a UK court.

The responsibility of the UK court for hearing the case is established by EU law. According to the Withdrawal Agreement, after the end of the transition period, the UK court remains competent for hearing that case on the basis of EU law.

In another example, at the end of the transition period, a company may be in legal proceedings against a UK company before a French court.

According to the Withdrawal Agreement, after the end of the transition period, EU law on the recognition and enforcement of judgements continues to apply to the recognition and enforcement, in the United Kingdom, of the judgement rendered by the French court.*

Lots of other information for you at the site. Enjoy!
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/pres...n/qanda_20_104

Here is a real treat for you!

Ongoing Union judicial and administrative procedures

Under the Withdrawal Agreement, the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) will remain competent for*judicial procedures*concerning the United Kingdom registered at the CJEU before the end of the transition period, and those procedures should continue until a final binding judgment is given in accordance with Union rules. All stages of proceedings are concerned, including appeals or referrals back to the General Court. This allows for pending cases to reach completion in an orderly way.

While the above solves the issue of pending cases, it will also be possible to bring certain cases concerning the United Kingdom before the CJEU for a resolution according to Union rules after the end of the transition period.

The Agreement provides that, within four years from the end of the transition period, the Commission may bring before the CJEU new infringement cases against the United Kingdom, concerning breaches of Union law which occurred before the end of the transition period.

Within the same period, the United Kingdom may also be brought before the CJEU for non-compliance with an administrative decision of a Union institution or body taken before the end of the transition period or, for certain procedures specifically identified in the Agreement, after the end of the transition period.

The CJEU jurisdiction for these new cases is consistent with the principle that the termination of a Treaty shall not affect any right, obligation or legal situation of the parties created prior to its termination. This ensures legal certainty and a level playing field between the EU Member States and the United Kingdom, with respect to situations occurring when the United Kingdom was under Union law obligations.

For what concerns*administrative procedures, the Withdrawal Agreement provides that pending procedures shall continue to be handled according to Union rules. This concerns procedures on issues such as competition and state aid, which were initiated before the end of the transition period by institutions, offices and agencies of the Union, and which concern the United Kingdom or UK natural or legal persons.

In respect of aid granted before the end of the transition period, for a period of four years after the end of the transition period, the European Commission shall be competent to initiate*new administrative procedures on State aid*concerning the United Kingdom. The Commission shall be competent after the end of that four year period for procedures initiated before the end of that period.

The ECJ only has jurisdiction over member states.

We are not one - your reading propaganda. Its like the ECJ saying it has jurisdiction over the USA because it says so.

We repeal all of the WA on 31st December if you don't understand what that means you have bigger problems than I thought.
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24-05-2020, 10:42 PM
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Re: More Brexit Doom and Gloom...... NOT !

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We are not one - your reading propaganda. Its like the ECJ saying it has jurisdiction over the USA because it says so..
Bread, if you promise nobody else, I will let you in on a secret.
The EU, unlike the UK, doesn't need propaganda. The truth is wonderful enough, we don't need to gild facts, they shine from themselves.
In the mean time, anyone interested in facts can read the text and link I provided. So even if it is wasted on you, others may be better informed by it. In effect, it will be some time before the EU and UK part ways.

I must confess to enjoying the fact that it is boris who signed you up to this. He sure got brexit done, and the UK as well.
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24-05-2020, 10:49 PM
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Re: More Brexit Doom and Gloom...... NOT !

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Bread, if you promise nobody else, I will let you in on a secret.
The EU, unlike the UK, doesn't need propaganda. The truth is wonderful enough, we don't need to gild facts, they shine from themselves.
In the mean time, anyone interested in facts can read the text and link I provided. So even if it is wasted on you, others may be better informed by it. In effect, it will be some time before the EU and UK part ways.

I must confess to enjoying the fact that it is boris who signed you up to this. He sure got brexit done, and the UK as well.

I've read it

It means nothing keep on living in your fantasy, you make me laugh
 
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