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26-10-2020, 04:37 PM
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That was precisely what I was praying for (including having a few SBS grunts staying on board "just in case"). Unfortunately, my prayers went unanswered.
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A strange thing I know, but if we keep SBS on board we accept responsibility.

Easiest and most foolproof way is to have an idiot like me declare the ship unsafe on the grounds of Public Health.

They have no papers, so no proof of lack of threat from disease.

Perfectly legal and nothing the lawyers can do.

Yes it is a pain, out you go, board the ship, ask for all documents.

Oh Sorry you cannot dock.

Easy Peasy in summer on a calm day.

A Royal Pain in Winter in a gale.

If the military are involved you will have the mick taken out of you something rotten.
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26-10-2020, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
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Simple solution from days of old.

When we had a decent home secretary.

The ship would not have been allowed to dock

Stowaways handcuffed, ship and crew in no danger, job done.

Turn it around, at huge cost to the owners and a deterrent to others.

Perfectly legal, unfortunately Ms Patel is not up to it.

A certain, blind, Labour Home Secretary was most definitely up to it.
Once in UK national waters it's game over.
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26-10-2020, 05:12 PM
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Re: Tanker

Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
Once in UK national waters it's game over.
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Once again you show your total ignorance of the facts.
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26-10-2020, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
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Once again you show your total ignorance of the facts.
Under UN legislation we must accept any person who applies for asylum once landed while we review their claim. Entering UK territorial waters is the same as being landed. What happens if their application is rejected then depends on a number of factors however reporting them is a real can of worms.
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26-10-2020, 06:13 PM
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Re: Tanker

Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
Under UN legislation we must accept any person who applies for asylum once landed while we review their claim. Entering UK territorial waters is the same as being landed. What happens if their application is rejected then depends on a number of factors however reporting them is a real can of worms.
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You are the one who rejected totally the use of Chemical weapons by Iraq against Iran.

Your grasp on reality is minimal.

Your knowledge of how things work is also minimal.

You are from a refugee family, yet would deny that to others.
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26-10-2020, 06:26 PM
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Re: Tanker

Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
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You are the one who rejected totally the use of Chemical weapons by Iraq against Iran.

Your grasp on reality is minimal.

Your knowledge of how things work is also minimal.

You are from a refugee family, yet would deny that to others.
LOL!

Feel better now?

Never mind, no offence taken.
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26-10-2020, 07:23 PM
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I'm surprised that the Word "Piracy" has vanished from the accounts of this incident.

If any attempt was made to harass, or harm, a crew member, take control of the vessel, or cause any sort of damage, Piracy should be the charge and it would trump the act of illegal immigration - and as it seems to have started well before the vessel arrived in UK waters.

If it was Piracy, it's to do with the ship, the owners, etc., and not the UK.

The pirates would be sent back to whence they boarded and tried in court there.

Odd the way that Piracy was all the rage when first the reports came in - and not now!
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26-10-2020, 07:33 PM
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Re: Tanker

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I'm surprised that the Word "Piracy" has vanished from the accounts of this incident.

If any attempt was made to harass, or harm, a crew member, take control of the vessel, or cause any sort of damage, Piracy should be the charge and it would trump the act of illegal immigration - and as it seems to have started well before the vessel arrived in UK waters.

If it was Piracy, it's to do with the ship, the owners, etc., and not the UK.

The pirates would be sent back to whence they boarded and tried in court there.

Odd the way that Piracy was all the rage when first the reports came in - and not now!
I think that the piracy legislation was replaced by change brought in by Blair in the late 1990's.
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26-10-2020, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
LOL!

Feel better now?

Never mind, no offence taken.
It’s that time of the month I suspect
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26-10-2020, 08:11 PM
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It’s that time of the month I suspect
I think most of us get peed off at times. I certainly do but then I've got old Snot to kick up the arse when I do!

More than once the memsahib has caught me and asked "Why are you kicking the cat and calling him Pissoff? You know that's not his name."
 
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