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Re: Uk in Recession.

A lot if industry was privatised under Thatcher to avoid the uk tax oayer getting crippled with tax money to bail out the neglect from the 1970s and socialist governments
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Originally Posted by Judd ->
This exactly. Scargill, Red Robbo, Brenda Dean, the list is endless.
The Unions are now showing us their real power now.

A relative works at BA and that Company is getting shut of people right, left, and double centre.

Then they appear to want to hire back certain skills on much lower money contracts.

Whatever happened to the law that said you can't hire someone into a post where another has been made redundant?

BA must be loving the fact that their Union Reps can do nothing!
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13-08-2020, 12:55 PM
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Re: Uk in Recession.

Originally Posted by Tedc ->
The Unions are now showing us their real power now.

A relative works at BA and that Company is getting shut of people right, left, and double centre.

Then they appear to want to hire back certain skills on much lower money contracts.

Whatever happened to the law that said you can't hire someone into a post where another has been made redundant?

BA must be loving the fact that their Union Reps can do nothing!
BA is now a Spanish company, of course.

Perhaps that's another reason why so many of our businesses have been encouraged by the EU to 're-locate'.
To escape from the well-known left-wing British unions.
The unions are certainly not doing us any favours.
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13-08-2020, 01:51 PM
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Wasn't long ago BA pilots (with the Unions) were threatening strike action and grounding the airline over pay. They got the pay rise to keep the business from collapsing - you can hardly blame the airline to get pilots salaries back to average levels. Try being a pilot on Ryanair - you need to pay 30K of training before you get off the ground and even then you won't get paid anywhere near the going rate. Where are the unions at Ryanair ?
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Meanwhile in other news ...

https://order-order.com/2020/08/12/o...han-euro-area/
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13-08-2020, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Bread ->
Wasn't long ago BA pilots (with the Unions) were threatening strike action and grounding the airline over pay. They got the pay rise to keep the business from collapsing - you can hardly blame the airline to get pilots salaries back to average levels. Try being a pilot on Ryanair - you need to pay 30K of training before you get off the ground and even then you won't get paid anywhere near the going rate. Where are the unions at Ryanair ?
In Ireland, I assume.
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In Ireland, I assume.
The problem with unions is that migrant workers don't join them and IT doesn't really have a union anyway, and that's one of our biggest industries.

Unions have been getting smaller for about 30 years thank God.
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Why not Aerolor?
Yhey still have their credit cards dont they?
Nothing will change for them!
All ready impatient to start again from what lve seen

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I was thinking about work and being able to live there easily DM. I thought that free movement was not going to be easy after Brexit. Perhaps I am wrong.
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Re: Uk in Recession.

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I was thinking about work and being able to live there easily DM. I thought that free movement was not going to be easy after Brexit. Perhaps I am wrong.
Hi

Free Movement is ending for EU Citizens coming to the UK and for UK Citizens going to the EU.

Tourism will not require a Visa but no rights to work or retire to another Country.
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Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Our manufacturing was destroyed by Maggie as you say Aerolor!
But also by militant unions and business owners who were unwilling
to reinvest in their businesses due to the fact that more money could
be made from stocks and shares, and more easily?
Hence the big british sell off !!
The primary reason for this was of course the militant unions !!

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I think it was more than that DM. The unions were very militant at the time and played their part in the downfall of our industries, but a great deal of it had to do that we were no longer as competitive. Chinese steel, Indian steel and other producers were a lot cheaper than we were and their labour costs were so cheap - more like slave labour. Would you have our workers have to work on a par with them in order to compete? Even UK bought the cheaper stuff in preference to our own. Our industries gradually closed down and I am firmly of the opinion that Margaret Thatcher was largely responsible for the engineering of it. She was determined to bring the heavy industries to their knees, rather than listen to them and lose face. India and China can work as "dirty" as they like, with little consideration for their workers or pollution but we were involved with concerns about pollution and the welfare of our people and the mines were considered "dirty" industries
Didn't stop them buying elsewhere though did it rather than to support our own.
 
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