20-11-2020, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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There was an interesting discussion on LBC about this. About how status makes it ok to bully but if a cleaning supervisor were to act the same way and shout and swear at staff they would not last long and would be disciplined for bullying. Helps to have powerful friends.
20-11-2020, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by JBR
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It is easy to criticise without knowing the exact circumstances. Of course, details like that never stop people criticising!
21-11-2020, 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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There was an interesting discussion on LBC about this. About how status makes it ok to bully but if a cleaning supervisor were to act the same way and shout and swear at staff they would not last long and would be disciplined for bullying. Helps to have powerful friends.
Or if it had been a chap shouting and swearing at his colleagues, especially female colleagues.
Apparently she was advised a year ago to show more respect to them. There's really no excuse for bullying and I can imagine a load of claims of harassment or bullying in the workplace will now be in jeopardy of been dismissed.
Or even on social media come to that ... the aggressor can simply claim they didn't realise they were upsetting other people.
I would love it if they'd been more specific as just how bad her level of swearing and shouting was/is.
21-11-2020, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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Actually a friend of a friend confirmed the circumstances of her own experience of this individual. So that makes it easier to criticise.
Impressive.
You've heard about Chinese whispers, of course.
21-11-2020, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Morticia
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I would love it if they'd been more specific as just how bad her level of swearing and shouting was/is.
21-11-2020, 01:10 AM
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Again, context is very important here. All we are hearing is one side, that of the cry baby senior civil servant. The issue of respect keeps cropping up. Was Patel shown respect by the civil servants? or did they immediately take a disliking to her even before they met her? Was her authority undermined by the civil servants hence her alleged outbursts.What I find annoying is that the majority of people are automatically coming to the defence of the alleged bullied senior civil servant because that is all the media have reported on, is allegedly how badly HE has been treated. It could be a case that the fault is actually the doing of the civil servant(s) for not treating Ms Patel with the respect she deserves but because cry baby senior civil servant went to the press first to tell (sell) his story, his version of events is the only one that is being believed. He could have been the instigator of the problem(s) but we will not know that until the tribunal case comes to court.
21-11-2020, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Dodge
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Again, context is very important here. All we are hearing is one side, that of the cry baby senior civil servant. The issue of respect keeps cropping up. Was Patel shown respect by the civil servants? or did they immediately take a disliking to her even before they met her? Was her authority undermined by the civil servants hence her alleged outbursts.What I find annoying is that the majority of people are automatically coming to the defence of the alleged bullied senior civil servant because that is all the media have reported on, is allegedly how badly HE has been treated. It could be a case that the fault is actually the doing of the civil servant(s) for not treating Ms Patel with the respect she deserves but because cry baby senior civil servant went to the press first to tell (sell) his story, his version of events is the only one that is being believed. He could have been the instigator of the problem(s) but we will not know that until the tribunal case comes to court.
a woman!
a woman of Indian extraction!!
21-11-2020, 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Dodge
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Context is needed with regards the the alleged 'shouting and swearing'. Was the civil servants not doing as she requested, requests that could be very reasonable therefore hence her outbursts? or is she a woman who just shouts and swears for the hell of it in the work place?I am looking forward to the tribunal as well because we will get to hear Patel's side of events * rather than just the one sided events we currently keep on hearing from the cry baby ex senior civil servant.
21-11-2020, 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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There was an interesting discussion on LBC about this. About how status makes it ok to bully but if a cleaning supervisor were to act the same way and shout and swear at staff they would not last long and would be disciplined for bullying. Helps to have powerful friends.
21-11-2020, 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by JBR
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It is easy to criticise without knowing the exact circumstances. Of course, details like that never stop people criticising!
Priti Patel: Bullying claims from time at DfID revealed
By Nicholas Watt
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51731753
The DWP did not admit liability and the case did not come before a tribunal.
Newsnight has now learned that in 2017, Ms Patel was allegedly accused by officials in her private office at DfID of humiliating civil servants in front of others, of putting heavy pressure in emails and of creating a general sense that "everyone is hopeless".
The latest claims to come to light were reportedly passed in 2017 to the DfID official by another senior figure in the department - who advised that the cabinet secretary at the time, the late Lord Heywood, should be informed.
The senior figure wanted the allegations to be lodged in the Whitehall system so that officials would be aware of allegations surrounding Ms Patel if, as expected, she returned to ministerial office.
Ms Patel resigned as Secretary of State for International Development in November 2017 over an unauthorised visit to Israel *.
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