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09-12-2019, 10:32 AM
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Re: Modern Cars.

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No, they use special stop/start batteries. A quick check on Haldords website lists a regular 096 battery at £92 and a stop/start 096 at £157.

That is rather what I expected. No doubt it is not possible to change the batteries over either, that will require a 'special' procedure to reset the computer or something similar.

There's no doubt about it, the modern cars may be better in a lot of respects but they are also being used as 'cash cows' by the manufacturers and main dealers. My local VW dealer is now charging around £100 an hour for labour!
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09-12-2019, 11:02 AM
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Re: Modern Cars.

Originally Posted by Baz46 ->
That is rather what I expected. No doubt it is not possible to change the batteries over either, that will require a 'special' procedure to reset the computer or something similar.

There's no doubt about it, the modern cars may be better in a lot of respects but they are also being used as 'cash cows' by the manufacturers and main dealers. My local VW dealer is now charging around £100 an hour for labour!
Ours is serviced by them whilst under warranty. After that, it will be our local garage.
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09-12-2019, 11:35 AM
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Re: Modern Cars.

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AFAIK, cars with Stop/Start systems just use "regular" batteries.
Originally Posted by Ray Cathode ->
No, they use special stop/start batteries. A quick check on Haldords website lists a regular 096 battery at £92 and a stop/start 096 at £157.
Thanks for the update .....
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09-12-2019, 11:39 AM
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Re: Modern Cars.

So electric cars will be silent? Oh dear, that might be a problem for some...eg. Cars coming around blind corners when you’re crossing the road.
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09-12-2019, 11:43 AM
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Re: Modern Cars.

A lot of vehicle noise actually comes from the tyres but at low speed they would be virtually silent.


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09-12-2019, 11:54 AM
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Re: Modern Cars.

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A lot of vehicle noise actually comes from the tyres but at low speed they would be virtually silent.
Very true. Whenever cars pass along our road, all I hear is tyre noise.

Except, of course, for the occasional infantile boy racer who believes that revving his engine to destruction (assuming that he is actually driving his own car ) lends him an impressively, if undeserved, powerful personality!
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09-12-2019, 01:37 PM
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Re: Modern Cars.

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Ours is serviced by them whilst under warranty. After that, it will be our local garage.
That will be my choice from next year. The last service was advised as going to cost me £179, then I received a telephone call to say that as the car was five years' old the timing belt would need replacing – £479, and then I was advised the brake fluid needed changing, another £64.

So a five-year-old car having done just 16,000 miles needed to £722 spent on it! I hadn't even replaced a tyre on it then, and last week the two front tyres were replaced by the local garage, far less than the price VW dealer quoted me!

I enquired at the local garage about the cost of replacing the timing belt – £350, that will be done after Christmas and the next service and MoT will be booked with them too.

The labour charge at the local garage is £50 an hour, their mechanics are all time-served mechanics. Their courtesy cars are part of the service. The VW dealer charges £15 to have your name put on the courtesy car insurance, they charge almost £100 an hour – need I say more!

The local garage also doesn't need to advertise, their work is all by word of mouth and they are always very busy.
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10-12-2019, 06:53 PM
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Re: Modern Cars.

Originally Posted by Ray Cathode ->
No, they use special stop/start batteries. A quick check on Haldords website lists a regular 096 battery at £92 and a stop/start 096 at £157.
Once again the public have to pay to save the planet.
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Re: Modern Cars.

Originally Posted by Artangel ->
So electric cars will be silent? Oh dear, that might be a problem for some...eg. Cars coming around blind corners when you’re crossing the road.
I have seen a few electric cars in our car park and their silence is a bit eerie tbh.
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10-12-2019, 06:55 PM
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Re: Modern Cars.

Originally Posted by JBR ->
Very true. Whenever cars pass along our road, all I hear is tyre noise.

Except, of course, for the occasional infantile boy racer who believes that revving his engine to destruction (assuming that he is actually driving his own car ) lends him an impressively, if undeserved, powerful personality!
Don'tcha just love 'em?
 
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