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Originally Posted by Muddy
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Precious I don’t think that AD is being rude it’s just his way of posting somewhat short and to the point !.Indeed despite my efforts to be charming at all times am sometimes a bit like that myself
17-08-2019, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Muddy
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As in the USA where everyone who can afford it has their therapist ?There just are’t enough to go around .
People have always been mentally ill that’s life .
Now we have so much time to think we can dwell upon things more and counsellors what exactly do they do?
you sound old school muddy with the "just toughen up kid" approach. that attitude is unhelpful imo
17-08-2019, 11:03 AM
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Twice in my life I have had to resort to medical help and anti depressant medication, each time for about three years. I am even now grateful for that help. I believed then in a God of love, I no longer do so but respect and in a way, envy those who still do.17-08-2019, 11:10 AM
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The other side of the coin is though sometimes the "toughen up kid" approach is quite appropriate. Other times it is just about the worst thing you can do. Whether you're a counsellor, a teacher, a parent or whatever. The mark of a good counsellor is to know the difference and to not impose your personal attitudes and prejudices on your patient/ client. We are not counsellors here. We are people chatting on a forum. We take our chances and each other as we come - or try to. Sometimes we get each other wrong. Sometimes we say the wrong thing. That's life. All we can do is try to respect each other.
17-08-2019, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by precious
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Counselling has helped me and im sure many others would agree it has helped them.you sound old school muddy with the "just toughen up kid" approach. that attitude is unhelpful imo
That is your erroneous perception
On the contrary I am very sensitive to the fact it’s not possible for people with anxiety or depression to toughen up .
Why, because if they could they would no one wants to be in a state of anxiety or depression .
17-08-2019, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by keezoy
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The other side of the coin is though sometimes the "toughen up kid" approach is quite appropriate. Other times it is just about the worst thing you can do. Whether you're a counsellor, a teacher, a parent or whatever. The mark of a good counsellor is to know the difference and to not impose your personal attitudes and prejudices on your patient/ client. We are not counsellors here. We are people chatting on a forum. We take our chances and each other as we come - or try to. Sometimes we get each other wrong. Sometimes we say the wrong thing. That's life. All we can do is try to respect each other.
"start by cleaning your room!"
17-08-2019, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by precious
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Heard of a guy called Jordan Peterson? He advocates a toughen up approach. But I quite like the way he does it. he is mainly targetying young men though. So prevention rather than cure."start by cleaning your room!"
17-08-2019, 04:14 PM
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Jordan Peterson has recently got into hot water over transgender people .He refuses to call people by the pronoun they prefer instead of their biological gender .
https://life.spectator.co.uk/article...nsgender-wars/
17-08-2019, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by precious
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I will ask and answer this question in regard to myself first.I am a worry wart. High anxiety. Mountains out of molehills kind of guy. I quit teaching because i couldnt handle the stress.
17-08-2019, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Muddy
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Jordan Peterson has recently got into hot water over transgender people .He refuses to call people by the pronoun they prefer instead of their biological gender .
https://life.spectator.co.uk/article...nsgender-wars/
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