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Re: High Street v online prices

Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
Hi

Amazon are notorious for selling fakes.

Counterfeits on Amazon .The Counterfeit Report, a company that helps manufacturers remove fakes online, said that it identified 153,000 counterfeits on Amazon in the past seven years and removed 53,000 on behalf of clients. More than three quarters came from marketplace sellers and 8 per cent from Amazon directly

Fake goods are huge business and Amazon do not care, they are after profit.
HANG ON ----

Amazon is a MARKET PLACE.

While Amazon do sell some products directly they also host other vendors who sell on their own behalf through Amazon.

If a vendor is found to have been selling "knock off" (fake) stuff Amazon will bust a gut to get the vendor prosecuted.
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These are not fakes .
You simple can’t fake well known brands like this .
They would be on you like a shot .
Wanna buy a "genuine" Rolex? €250 tops.
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But they're £49.95 from Faber Castell direct.
That's because such companies protect their High Street outlets.
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Wanna buy a "genuine" Rolex? €250 tops.
You wont get one on Amazon
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24-12-2019, 11:03 AM
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Reading through the posts on this thread one factor appears to have been overlooked – what it costs to manufacture these artists' crayons.

Faber Castell more than likely own the manufacturing rights, if they decided to sell the crayons at the full selling price from their shops on the high street they would be making an enormous amount of profit. Crayons, however good they are, do not cost £2 each to manufacture and package.

It could be that Faber Castell are either selling them very much cheaper via another company, even one they have set up, that then sells them on Amazon. Better some profit that way than none at all if they are not selling at the usual high street outlets due to how sales have spiralled downwards.

When I was working it was in the printing and advertising industry. The early days involved working with the creative, 'arty' side. We used a spray adhesive in creating some work, this was extortionate in cost but was nothing special other than the manufacturing company was the only one selling or importing it. It was known what it was used for and the only industry using it was well-known for how much it cost for the products being produced. I am going back some 35-40 years and for an aerosol can of adhesive spray to cost around £25 was very, very expensive. Everything we used was expensive, the costs though reflected the purpose and the industry in which it was used.

Later that adhesive spray was reckoned to contain carcinogens. Spray booths taking the residue of spray out of the atmosphere so that it was not inhaled had to be used. Then of course computers arrived and were being technologically advanced so making it completely unnecessary for the process that used the adhesive spray. Everything was done on the screen, as it is today.

Anyone who has seen how crayons and pencils are made will realise they are produced in millions so manufacturing costs are relatively low. Even at the lowest price quoted on this thread, each crayon, including packaging, costs nearly £1, allowing for a good profit to be made, which may account for the very much lower price on Amazon.
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24-12-2019, 11:21 AM
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Re: High Street v online prices

Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
HANG ON ----

Amazon is a MARKET PLACE.

While Amazon do sell some products directly they also host other vendors who sell on their own behalf through Amazon.

If a vendor is found to have been selling "knock off" (fake) stuff Amazon will bust a gut to get the vendor prosecuted.
Hi

Read my link

Amazon where found to be selling fakes directly, not just third party sellers.
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24-12-2019, 11:25 AM
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Well they might be these these are not fakes these are Faber Castell a reknown maker of artists materials .
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24-12-2019, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Baz46 ->
Reading through the posts on this thread one factor appears to have been overlooked – what it costs to manufacture these artists' crayons.

Faber Castell more than likely own the manufacturing rights, if they decided to sell the crayons at the full selling price from their shops on the high street they would be making an enormous amount of profit. Crayons, however good they are, do not cost £2 each to manufacture and package.

It could be that Faber Castell are either selling them very much cheaper via another company, even one they have set up, that then sells them on Amazon. Better some profit that way than none at all if they are not selling at the usual high street outlets due to how sales have spiralled downwards.

When I was working it was in the printing and advertising industry. The early days involved working with the creative, 'arty' side. We used a spray adhesive in creating some work, this was extortionate in cost but was nothing special other than the manufacturing company was the only one selling or importing it. It was known what it was used for and the only industry using it was well-known for how much it cost for the products being produced. I am going back some 35-40 years and for an aerosol can of adhesive spray to cost around £25 was very, very expensive. Everything we used was expensive, the costs though reflected the purpose and the industry in which it was used.

Later that adhesive spray was reckoned to contain carcinogens. Spray booths taking the residue of spray out of the atmosphere so that it was not inhaled had to be used. Then of course computers arrived and were being technologically advanced so making it completely unnecessary for the process that used the adhesive spray. Everything was done on the screen, as it is today.

Anyone who has seen how crayons and pencils are made will realise they are produced in millions so manufacturing costs are relatively low. Even at the lowest price quoted on this thread, each crayon, including packaging, costs nearly £1, allowing for a good profit to be made, which may account for the very much lower price on Amazon.
Thank you Baz very interesting .
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Re: High Street v online prices

Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
Hi

Read my link

Amazon where found to be selling fakes directly, not just third party sellers.
There's a world of difference between some products leaking onto Amazon directly and it being normal practice. Even major retail outlets occasionally have some fakes entering the procurement route.
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Originally Posted by Muddy ->
Well they might be these these are not fakes these are Faber Castell a reknown maker of artists materials .
Another possibilitty could be that Faber Castell have set up a
factory in china, ( like volkswagon cars has) which makes their
product in china to their standards for much less production costs?
This practice has become common in the car industry with even
American companies such as GM relocating to places such as
Mexico and Brazil!
Imo this sort of thing will come back to bite the countries of origin
by eventually transferring the unemployment problem from the
cheaper country to the previously fully employed one?
Trump is allready pressuring GM etc to reverse the process in his
quest for working class votes!
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