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10-07-2019, 10:02 PM
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Re: Brexit and Boris.

Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
Hi

Returning to Boris.

Last night he refused point blank, six times, to answer the question would he resign if he did not deliver Brexit on 31st October as he has promised to do.

He also refused to stand up for the UK in the row with Trump.

Boris is all about Boris, not us.
Rubbish!

He is under no obligation to answer such a puerile question.

As for the Ambassador!!

His position was untenable thanks to his own words.

Trump was right to be angry and right to want nothing to do with the numpty.

Johnson called it right.
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10-07-2019, 10:16 PM
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Re: Brexit and Boris.

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10-07-2019, 11:22 PM
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Re: Brexit and Boris.

Originally Posted by Moscow ->
Rubbish!

He is under no obligation to answer such a puerile question.

As for the Ambassador!!

His position was untenable thanks to his own words.

Trump was right to be angry and right to want nothing to do with the numpty.

Johnson called it right.
Nothing to do with the Ambassador really just the traitor who released the comments. This situation should never have been discussed in the first place, he should be allowed to express a private opinion without it being broadcast by a sneak who leaked his comments to the press. Whoever did this should be found out and prosecuted for breaking the official secrets act. If every comment made by a country's Ambassadors were made public knowledge it would do untold damage (as in this case) to relations between countries. The Ambassador did the decent thing and fell on his sword.
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11-07-2019, 04:38 AM
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Re: Brexit and Boris.

Hi

Our Diplomats are overseas to report back to us.

That is how the system works, not only for the UK, but for every other Country as well.

They tell it how it is.

It is up to the Politicians to take decisions on what they report back.

Their communications are private.

An International Convention has been broken.

We are now a laughing stock, viewed as a toady of the USA.

This puts us at a great disadvantage.

The UK can no longer be trusted.

If an Ambassador's emails , which are totally restricted, can be leaked, so can everything else.

We will be told nothing.

This puts us all at great risk.
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11-07-2019, 05:38 AM
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Re: Brexit and Boris.

Originally Posted by Bread ->
Only a complete dickhead would still think that after ..

1. Posting about free ports being the same and then being proved wrong

2. Adding a document backing up my argument and not yours.

3. Thinking boris Johnson is as stupid as you are


#gaslighting

#changinghistory

#epicfailure
The only dickhead is you if you cannot comprehend exactly what Boris actually said

Did he mention the type of free port..... NO he didn’t.

So unless Boris is a clueless idiot who doesn’t know what he is talking about, which I doubt as he may be a buffoon but he’s no fool, HE LIED. Simple as that but obviously too complex for you
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11-07-2019, 08:26 AM
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Re: Brexit and Boris.

Originally Posted by Banchory ->
The only dickhead is you if you cannot comprehend exactly what Boris actually said

Did he mention the type of free port..... NO he didn’t.

So unless Boris is a clueless idiot who doesn’t know what he is talking about, which I doubt as he may be a buffoon but he’s no fool, HE LIED. Simple as that but obviously too complex for you
Your just wrong... your making a complete fool of yourself.
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11-07-2019, 01:29 PM
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Re: Brexit and Boris.

Originally Posted by Banchory ->
Did he mention the type of free port..... NO he didn’t.
Good to see you admit this crucial part of the debate a further time.

You are admitting that YOU have no idea whether Boris was talking about normal Free Ports or EU Pseudo Free Ports.

Really good that you are admitting this as it is crucial to the point.


Originally Posted by Banchory ->
So unless Boris is a clueless idiot who doesn’t know what he is talking about, which I doubt as he may be a buffoon but he’s no fool, HE LIED. Simple as that but obviously too complex for you
Ah you see, there you've made a fool of yourself again.

You can not accuse Boris of lying because YOU don't know what type of Free Port Boris was referring to. You plainly admitted this.

He could have been referring to normal free ports, in which case he ws telling the TRUTH

Or he could have been talking about EU Pseudo Free Ports, in which case he was lying.


It's one or the other, but you don't know which because by your own repeated admission you don't know what type of Free Ports Boris was referring to.


This really is not difficult to take on board.

Very very simple logic

Yet you appear to have grave difficulty with it and want to continually accuse Boris of lying.

You simply can not do that. You don't know if he was lying or not, because you don't know what type of Free Port he was referring to.

Continuing to accuse Boris of lying simply identifies you as a liar yourself. If you are going to be honest and truthful you MUST concede that you don't know whether he lied or told the truth. It's that simple.
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11-07-2019, 02:46 PM
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Re: Brexit and Boris.

Despite EU rules, we found a way around it.

The SOHAR Port and Freezone is operational since 2002 and is being managed by Sohar Industrial Port Company (SIPC), a 50/50 joint-venture between the Port of Rotterdam Authority and the Omani government.

SOHAR Port and Freezone is one of the fastest growing ports in the world. Situated in Oman near the Strait of Hormuz facing the Arabian Sea, the port and freezone is located on one of the world's most important shipping routes. Unhindered nautical access, modern logistics facilities for different types of cargo and road, rail and air connections to the Gulf states make SOHAR a smart logistics hub.

A market of more than 1 billion people is within easy reach thanks to SOHAR's unequalled connections to the booming economies of the Gulf states, India and east Africa. With the presence of steel, petrochemical, and plastics manufacturing facilities in the port area, the Omani port is also emerging as a major industrial site.
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11-07-2019, 04:35 PM
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Re: Brexit and Boris.

Originally Posted by Realist ->
Good to see you admit this crucial part of the debate a further time.

You are admitting that YOU have no idea whether Boris was talking about normal Free Ports or EU Pseudo Free Ports.

Really good that you are admitting this as it is crucial to the point.




Ah you see, there you've made a fool of yourself again.

You can not accuse Boris of lying because YOU don't know what type of Free Port Boris was referring to. You plainly admitted this.

He could have been referring to normal free ports, in which case he ws telling the TRUTH

Or he could have been talking about EU Pseudo Free Ports, in which case he was lying.


It's one or the other, but you don't know which because by your own repeated admission you don't know what type of Free Ports Boris was referring to.


This really is not difficult to take on board.

Very very simple logic

Yet you appear to have grave difficulty with it and want to continually accuse Boris of lying.

You simply can not do that. You don't know if he was lying or not, because you don't know what type of Free Port he was referring to.

Continuing to accuse Boris of lying simply identifies you as a liar yourself. If you are going to be honest and truthful you MUST concede that you don't know whether he lied or told the truth. It's that simple.

Don't exist,

7 days ago - Reality Check verdict: It is not true to say you can't have free ports or tax-free zones if you are a member state of the EU. There are more than 80 such zones across the Union. ... It also says "the Treasury currently has the power to designate free ports by Statutory Instrument".


The bumbling Trump poodle lied, and you know what? he knew he was lying.

He's just a lying bastard
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11-07-2019, 05:27 PM
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Re: Brexit and Boris.

Sigh. Just regurgitating the same content and sound bites Itsme. Everyone knows there are EXISTING free ports in the EU but for the most part they existed BEFORE those countries joined the EU and you know this well.

Let's be real

European Parliament puts 'urgent' phasing out of freeports top of agenda

https://www.theartnewspaper.com/news...-top-of-agenda


"The European Parliament is calling for freeports to be scrapped across the European Union as part of a damning report on tax evasion and money laundering published last week. "

So in reality, no chance of any new free ports in the UK whilst we remain in the EU.


Why can’t we create Free Ports as a member of the Single Market and Customs Union?

https://www.cps.org.uk/files/reports...pportunity.pdf

"As a member of the EU Single Market and Customs Union, the UK does not have control over its trade policy. The UK is not able to set its own tariff/customs duties and administration."

"EU regulations would make it difficult to create US-style Free Trade Zones in the UK."

"The United Nations has concluded that: “Free Trade Zones as originally conceived do not exist anymore in the EU.”"


"After Ireland joined the EU, the country’s ability to continue its successful free Zone programme was significantly curtailed (see Chapter 3)."

and so on and on and on

Nothing has changed.

The UK simply can not create a REAL Free Port while it remains in the EU.
 
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