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05-07-2019, 06:35 PM
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EVs wont solve uk's congestion problems?

Latest research suggests that ev's will not solve our
problems around traffic congestion and will create problems
with electricity reticulation systems?
Seems to be a logical conclusion to come to imo?
The only benefit of ev's will be in the pollution reduction!
So where do we go from here?
Imo we should not go overboard with ev production as it
will only be a fix for pollution, which allthough important, will
not solve the congestion we experience every day all across
the country as well as the parking lottery we have endure
and pay for in the urban enviroment?
I think we have to have a public debate and possibly a vote
on whether we can wean ourselves off of the one man one
car mind set we seem stuck with at the moment? And go
for a system of free public transport in urban areas,
combined with an integrated parking set up around the
outskirts of towns?
Private vehicles should be banned from town centres?
This is all going to be very unpopular with the citizens but
If uk really wants to cut pollution and congestion something
like the above is going to be necassary!
Can anyone suggest any alternatives?

Regards Donkeyman!
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05-07-2019, 07:56 PM
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Re: EVs wont solve uk's congestion problems?

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Latest research suggests that ev's will not solve our
problems around traffic congestion and will create problems
with electricity reticulation systems?
Seems to be a logical conclusion to come to imo?
The only benefit of ev's will be in the pollution reduction!
So where do we go from here?
Imo we should not go overboard with ev production as it
will only be a fix for pollution, which allthough important, will
not solve the congestion we experience every day all across
the country as well as the parking lottery we have endure
and pay for in the urban enviroment?
I think we have to have a public debate and possibly a vote
on whether we can wean ourselves off of the one man one
car mind set we seem stuck with at the moment? And go
for a system of free public transport in urban areas,
combined with an integrated parking set up around the
outskirts of towns?
Private vehicles should be banned from town centres?
This is all going to be very unpopular with the citizens but
If uk really wants to cut pollution and congestion something
like the above is going to be necassary!
Can anyone suggest any alternatives?

Regards Donkeyman!
Yes, lets all move to India.
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05-07-2019, 07:58 PM
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Re: EVs wont solve uk's congestion problems?

EV's will not solve anything. Eventually there will as many EVs as petrol & Diesel cars on the roads. If they ban them in cities, there will be no shops left.

I was watching a programme the other day about police on the A1 and they would not touch an EV that had been in an accident in case it was live and dangerous.
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05-07-2019, 09:15 PM
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Re: EVs wont solve uk's congestion problems?

The idea for ev,s in the future will be driverless,
The idea being that they will all ‘ talk’ to each other, controlling speed, and monitoring traffic flow, there will be no more speeding, or accidents,as the vehicles will have all the information required for traffic management, the days of owning your own car are numbered, as you would basically rent a car for your journey, a bit like you do a taxi now, only there’ll be no need for a driver, plus what will be the point of owning a car you cannot drive...!
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05-07-2019, 10:13 PM
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Re: EVs wont solve uk's congestion problems?

Originally Posted by Primus1 ->
The idea for ev,s in the future will be driverless,
The idea being that they will all ‘ talk’ to each other, controlling speed, and monitoring traffic flow, there will be no more speeding, or accidents,as the vehicles will have all the information required for traffic management, the days of owning your own car are numbered, as you would basically rent a car for your journey, a bit like you do a taxi now, only there’ll be no need for a driver, plus what will be the point of owning a car you cannot drive...!
I think your right Primus! That would solve the bproblem of
on street parking also! But we still have the problem of
getting people to accept the changes, like we have pride of
ownership, status symbol syndrone! etc, etc, to overcome as
well as the perceived convenience of ownership? These are
purely phycological barriers and will be difficult to overcome?
However l believe what you say is the right way to go!
Perhaps we should do an experiment on one city, say London
as a worst case scenario, and put all the required measures
in place gradually there before doing all the other cities one
by one?

Regards Donkeyman!
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06-07-2019, 12:38 PM
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Re: EVs wont solve uk's congestion problems?

We needs more park and ride systems, much better and cheaper public transport.
I see some cities are going to charge busses for using the roads! Surely cleaner busses and more of them make more sense.
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06-07-2019, 01:47 PM
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Re: EVs wont solve uk's congestion problems?

Our council has introduced a fine if you don’t switch off your engine when asked..
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07-07-2019, 09:30 PM
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Re: EVs wont solve uk's congestion problems?

Originally Posted by Primus1 ->
Our council has introduced a fine if you don’t switch off your engine when asked..
That could stop all traffic in its tracks Primus!
Would'nt that cause a lot of congestion?

Regards Donkeyman!
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07-07-2019, 09:49 PM
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Re: EVs wont solve uk's congestion problems?

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
That could stop all traffic in its tracks Primus!
Would'nt that cause a lot of congestion?

Regards Donkeyman!
It’s only for people who sit with their engines running whilst parked not if your in traffic..
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08-07-2019, 06:24 AM
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Re: EVs wont solve uk's congestion problems?

Hi

The big problem with EVs is charging points.

On street parking?

Fancy a load of cables running across the footpaths?
 
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