Re: Why Did You Forsake Us Ireland?
Originally Posted by
gumbud
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history is never redundant - "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
the Irish; Welsh and Scots have all been treated badly by the English I am surprised they talk to England at all?
Blimey gumbud, how far back in history do you want to go for the English to apologise for.
WALES.
Of course there were historical times between England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland, But how long are we expected to keep apologising for wrongdoings of the past? 6th or 7th century? The Celts and Saxon wars?. I think the Welsh and English get along just fine thank you, and have done so since the 16th century., The Welsh identity is still strong but why do you think it is that although there are very few English speak the Welsh language, virtually all Welsh speakers can speak English. That is because we have evolved over time to live in peace, harmony and tolerance of both its people and cultures. We English and Welsh have shared military, political, economic and culture for many years. Yes, no doubt there are still some Welsh who believe in Anglophobia for one reason or another, as no doubt do some elements in England with Cymrophobia, But they are very few and far between. We get along just fine.
SCOTLAND
Again, you state you wonder why they are even speaking to us.
Well, the answer to your question was the Scottish Independence Referendum held on 18 September 2014 (my birthday actually) and it speaks for itself.
Again, you are asking us to never be forgiven for something that happened in 1600 - 1700 century when the then Britannia pushed the Roman legions back to Hadrian’s Wall.
Do we keep forever apologising?
IRELAND
Obviously there has been more conflict in this beautiful land between Irish Nationalists and Unionists. The problems started in 1916 with the Easter Rising organised by members of the Irish Volunteers who turned public opinion (both there and here in England) against the Black & Tans (WW1 veteran reservists) who were basically thugs in uniform.
England can rightly hang their head in shame over this terrible time.
Then of course, there were the troubles during the late 1960’s when the British authorities sent in the Army to try to restore order between the Unionists and the Nationalists.
We had 28 years of this, only ending with the “Good Friday Agreement” in 1998.
A History best left in the past, (on all three sides!!)
Gumbud, to be fair, England, like any country, has had its fair share of historical “nasty” episodes, but I don’t see any other countries expected to keep apologising for past wrong-doings, the way England is always being asked of, or accused of - the way pipsqueak Obama was only too keen to publicise about, the moment he came to power.
Time all this nonsense stopped!