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I see it's 50 dead now and dozens injured among them children and still the thread is about how awful the victims religion is. If that's not disgusting I don't know what is.
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Originally Posted by Julie1962 ->
I see it's 50 dead now and dozens injured among them children and still the thread is about how awful the victims religion is. If that's not disgusting I don't know what is.
It's not disgusting. It's about the root cause that drove the perpetrator to commit the awful crime that he did.
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17-03-2019, 03:41 PM
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It's not disgusting. It's about the root cause that drove the perpetrator to commit the awful crime that he did.
He had no justification nor did those people drive him to anything. He was a coward and a right wing terrorist. If a Muslim attacked you wouldn't be saying what justification he had so don't pretend you would.
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17-03-2019, 03:48 PM
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The cause was social media extremism. People with extreme views influence others.
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17-03-2019, 04:36 PM
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He had no justification nor did those people drive him to anything. He was a coward and a right wing terrorist. If a Muslim attacked you wouldn't be saying what justification he had so don't pretend you would.
The root cause that drove him to commit this crime was what he saw as the islamification of his culture with those who should be stopping it doing nothing.

But Right Wing?

Is to be patriotic right wing? Is to have national pride to be right wing? Is to want to defend ones national identity right wing? Is to want to take action against what he saw as representative group of a cult that used terrorism to be a terrorist?

Is to put your whole future life down the tubes as a sacrifice for what you believe is for the greatest good a coward?

Hardly.

But he was wrong. Not wrong in what he thought but wrong in the way that he addressed it. Totally wrong and very counter productive.

IMO what he should have done was to directly confront Islam, not the people under its thumb. Write a book - unless like Tommy Robinson you do and in spite of it being 100% factually correct it gets black balled by the major distributors.

Produce a film such as Fitna as Geert Wilders did. The uncensored version can still be found on t'web.

Or produce a series of short YouTube films such as Pat Condell has.

Now let's consider MY response when a Muslim attacks a group of people such as the infamous Manchester bombing.

Here I face a quandary because using the Qur'an and Hadith I can see how such a terrible act can be justified and is justified much as the rape and murder of the captured Yarzidi women is and has been and how the same (to us) evil source justified the abuse of our kids.
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17-03-2019, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
It's not disgusting. It's about the root cause that drove the perpetrator to commit the awful crime that he did.
we will find eventually perhaps that the man is deluded and deranged - yes we all face problems in life and get frustrated but to carry out this act is NOT the act of a sane man - he is insane and acting on his delusions - just as you are!!

Nationalim has never stood the test of time - go read ya history books - it develops and then is overtaken by invaders ; who in turn become nationals who in turn become 'invaded' - it's called the natural cycle and rhythm of life - get used to it - it will keep on occurring and re-occurring time and time in memorial!
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17-03-2019, 05:11 PM
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That comment was almost certainly directed at the wrong person.
No think to the right person.
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17-03-2019, 05:15 PM
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I see a poster on this site has referred to another site and wondered what we thought.

So had a look at Buzz which I do not look at know after being banned and surprise true to form with this Russian site ITS ALL TRUMPS fault

And also see the thread was locked.
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17-03-2019, 05:27 PM
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That shows how much you don't understand about Islam and Muslims in these regions. Complete ignorance.
Julie it is you who don't understand as your knowledge of Islam appears to be largely based on tea and cakes with your friendly
Iman .
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17-03-2019, 05:51 PM
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we will find eventually perhaps that the man is deluded and deranged - yes we all face problems in life and get frustrated but to carry out this act is NOT the act of a sane man - he is insane and acting on his delusions - just as you are!!

Nationalim has never stood the test of time - go read ya history books - it develops and then is overtaken by invaders ; who in turn become nationals who in turn become 'invaded' - it's called the natural cycle and rhythm of life - get used to it - it will keep on occurring and re-occurring time and time in memorial!
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