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05-10-2015, 05:25 PM
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Re: New Rules On 5p Plastic Carrier Bags

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In my view a complete con which will do little , if anything, for the environment.

Basically just an income generator for the Government, do not forget that 20% of the 5p goes to the Government as VAT.

Why do I say this?

Well, the disposable plastic bags account for less than !% of the unnecessary plastic packaging in the average Supermarket shop and around 60% of them were used in the house as bin liners etc.

Secondly, bags for life can be dangerous vectors of disease, people do not wash them and around 1 in every 9 wrapped raw chicken products are contaminated with Campylobacter on the outside of the wrapping,which is then transferred to the bag for life so more costs to the NHS.
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Bringing back brown paper bags with string handles would help methinks....
Don't even need the string, Primark paper bags are very sturdy
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05-10-2015, 05:51 PM
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In response, I will repeat, bags account for less than 1% of plastic packaging, and most bags are recycled in the home as bin bags, so more bin bags will now be purchased, simple fact of life.

Plastic packaging for food stuffs is far more dangerous than single use bags and far more prevalent and is used in much larger quantities.

What on earth is the point of individually wrapping cucumbers for example, or four baking potatoes in a foam tray packed in plastic?

The vast majority of plastic bags which find their way into the environment are actually from fast food, not supermarkets.

If we were really serious about protecting wildlife, which many people claim is one of the reasons for this ban, we should simply ban cats, which are far more dangerous to small furry and feathered creatures than plastic bags.

As for marine pollution by plastic, baby wipes, make up wipes etc are a huge problem.
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05-10-2015, 06:17 PM
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Re: New Rules On 5p Plastic Carrier Bags

Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
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In my view a complete con which will do little , if anything, for the environment.

Basically just an income generator for the Government, do not forget that 20% of the 5p goes to the Government as VAT.

Why do I say this?

Well, the disposable plastic bags account for less than !% of the unnecessary plastic packaging in the average Supermarket shop and around 60% of them were used in the house as bin liners etc.

Secondly, bags for life can be dangerous vectors of disease, people do not wash them and around 1 in every 9 wrapped raw chicken products are contaminated with Campylobacter on the outside of the wrapping,which is then transferred to the bag for life so more costs to the NHS.
I think society today is overly obsessed with this idea of vectors of disease. Before we had plastic carrier bags we used the equivalent of a 'bag for life' be it the string bag, basket or whatever.
I happen to think that if we had fewer antibacterial products we would have less overall disease. Recent studies, for example, suggest that the increased incidence of asthma in recent years may well be due to infants NOT being exposed to the bacteria which we were in the past.
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05-10-2015, 06:19 PM
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Re: New Rules On 5p Plastic Carrier Bags

It's a good thing plastic bags can't breed. We could be attacked by mutant carrier bags. Coming out of the sea or dropping on us from trees.
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05-10-2015, 07:31 PM
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What will people put their rubbish in if they dont have carrier bags any more ?My son orders from Asda,most of their goods were in carrier bags which I then used to line my kitchen rubbish bin, when full just throw it in the outside bin
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05-10-2015, 07:45 PM
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Re: New Rules On 5p Plastic Carrier Bags

Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
Hi

In response, I will repeat, bags account for less than 1% of plastic packaging, and most bags are recycled in the home as bin bags, so more bin bags will now be purchased, simple fact of life.

Plastic packaging for food stuffs is far more dangerous than single use bags and far more prevalent and is used in much larger quantities.

What on earth is the point of individually wrapping cucumbers for example, or four baking potatoes in a foam tray packed in plastic?

The vast majority of plastic bags which find their way into the environment are actually from fast food, not supermarkets.

If we were really serious about protecting wildlife, which many people claim is one of the reasons for this ban, we should simply ban cats, which are far more dangerous to small furry and feathered creatures than plastic bags.

As for marine pollution by plastic, baby wipes, make up wipes etc are a huge problem.
I get really angry about all the packaging and have half a mind to unwrap my stuff and leave the packing on the counter! We just don't need it! We could do away with baby wipes while we're at it - whatever happened to soap and water?!! Grrrr !!!
Carrier bags should have gone years ago..
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30-07-2016, 01:47 PM
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Nice to see it making a tangible difference

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-36917174

For everyone who thought it would be a big pain in the backside, it's not really is it? It's funny how sometimes we think something is going to be dreadful actually isn't.
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30-07-2016, 02:09 PM
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People get used to change very quickly....we got used to the free plastic bags and we have now got used to doing without them.
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30-07-2016, 02:11 PM
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Re: New Rules On 5p Plastic Carrier Bags

It is great news that the 5p carrier bag tax is making a difference but I wonder what other countries are doing about it?

I still can't understand how when I put a carrier bag out with the rubbish, it ends up in a turtles mouth.
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30-07-2016, 08:33 PM
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Re: New Rules On 5p Plastic Carrier Bags

Originally Posted by malcolm ->
People get used to change very quickly....we got used to the free plastic bags and we have now got used to doing without them.
Yes, this is true! Malcolm. The more things change, the more they are the same! A bit like Brexit, really!!

I wonder how much has gone to charity from the supermarkets?
 
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