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25-02-2020, 06:25 PM
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Re: Flooding Blog.

Originally Posted by mart ->
I think, in these cases, there is so much rain that it gets beyond any control. Also, as pointed out, let the water away from one place and it only goes to another to cause trouble. My point was though that it isn't just the north where flooding gets out of control. We're no more protected or special in the south than those living in the north.

I highlight 2013-14 again. A time when the Thames and another local river flooded the area. I expect they will again if we get enough rain.

https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/all-about/surrey-floods
From what you say Mart, then the rainfall has increased in that area?
is that the case? If it is then surely the top of the weir should be
lowered to let this extra water to flow away downstream which is
diirectly into the Thames estuary, that section of the river is not
affected by rainfall but mainly by tidal flow which can be controlled
by the thames barrier?
The reason for the teddington weir was to keep sufficient water in
the upper reaches of the river, which does'nt seem to be needed
anymore, as the flooding you showed demonstrates?
These are just my ideas using knowledge l gained in the sea scouts
in that area years ago!
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25-02-2020, 06:55 PM
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Re: Flooding Blog.

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It doesn't matter which party is in power, the opposition will blame natural disasters on them. If we had an erupting volcano here, the opposition would be there blaming the ruling party for not putting up lava defences.
If a volcano erupted here, Diane would be blaming Boris for the earthquake.
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25-02-2020, 06:58 PM
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Re: Flooding Blog.

It doesn't matter who is in power because they are all the same. They fall over themselves to send money to disasters abroad because it makes them look good but when something happens here, they couldn't care less.

It has always been that way
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25-02-2020, 11:11 PM
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Re: Flooding Blog.

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
From what you say Mart, then the rainfall has increased in that area?
is that the case? If it is then surely the top of the weir should be
lowered to let this extra water to flow away downstream which is
diirectly into the Thames estuary, that section of the river is not
affected by rainfall but mainly by tidal flow which can be controlled
by the thames barrier?
The reason for the teddington weir was to keep sufficient water in
the upper reaches of the river, which does'nt seem to be needed
anymore, as the flooding you showed demonstrates?
These are just my ideas using knowledge l gained in the sea scouts
in that area years ago!
Donkeyman!
Although I can't pretend to understand all that DM, I do agree with you that they need to be smarter with this mess.

There was an expert on the radio giving similar examples to yours. That we can manage this far better with clever planning of what happens to waterways when there is too much water. It should not need to cost the earth or require any major construction. People have been doing the same for thousands of years and I'm sure there are simple ways to improve the situation in areas at risk just by using a bit of innovative thinking. That should enable them to focus the main defences on areas where such strategies are not possible.

I think in such a situation planning permission for such changes to protect properties should be waived.
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26-02-2020, 12:00 AM
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Re: Flooding Blog.

Hi

Flood Defence Money is allocated according to a Cost Formulae set by the Treasury.

Every £1 spent must protect £8 of property values.

This skews the money to London and the South East.

This is not unusual, Politicians and Senior Civil Servants live there and they skew the money to their own advantage.

It is simple to change this, alter the formula to every property affected.
 
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