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because for house prices to fall now would mean that anyone who bought a buy to let won't be able to pay off their mortgage. The whole caboodle is based on house prices rises ad infinitum.
Not sure that stacks up...

The ongoing value of a house is not relative to the mortgage originally secured on it or the rent charged to live in it.
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Not sure that stacks up...

The ongoing value of a house is not relative to the mortgage originally secured on it or the rent charged to live in it.
If you end up with negative equity how will you pay off the balance of the mortgage at the end of the term? Buy to lets are pretty much stuck with crippling interest only mortgages.
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Even the IFS have trashed Hammond's budget !!!

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...he-thumbs-down
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26-11-2017, 10:14 AM
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Not all people who have a buy to let have a mortgage.
Lots of people invested their pension pot in a BTL in order to supplement their pension .
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26-11-2017, 10:37 AM
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Can someone please tell my why every budget is out to help those who want to borrow and stick their fingers up at those who save.
This time out to help first time home owners . If it wasn't for the savers there would be no money to lend.
I agree .
Savers don't win anything .
Their savings erode with inflation and there is no where to go it would seem.
The large banks are a disgrace they have passed on nothing to their savers.
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26-11-2017, 12:29 PM
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Not all people who have a buy to let have a mortgage.
Lots of people invested their pension pot in a BTL in order to supplement their pension .
If house prices fall then the investment gain falls. Then there is still Capital gains tax on the gain if it's over £11.7k or £23.4k for married couples. They did reduce CGT rates on privately owned buy to lets to 10% lower and 20% higher rate last year. But they have changed some rules on residence relief and are closing CGT relief loopholes for those who have set their buy to let up as a company, although that won't hit for a few years.

So if house prices fall you lose out on buy to let whether you have a mortgage or not.
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The only consolation we have is it would be worse under Labour
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26-11-2017, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS ->
If house prices fall then the investment gain falls. Then there is still Capital gains tax on the gain if it's over £11.7k or £23.4k for married couples. They did reduce CGT rates on privately owned buy to lets to 10% lower and 20% higher rate last year. But they have changed some rules on residence relief and are closing CGT relief loopholes for those who have set their buy to let up as a company, although that won't hit for a few years.

So if house prices fall you lose out on buy to let whether you have a mortgage or not.
Only if you sell.
If you haven't had much gain you won't pay CGT.
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26-11-2017, 07:02 PM
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Only if you sell.
If you haven't had much gain you won't pay CGT.
Gains are realised when sold usually. For those who do have a mortgage and want to move the property to a company structure then from what I've seen there may be a gain chrystalised when the transfer is made so CGT could be due without an actual sale. I think the same applies if you sign away the property to a family member or trust.

If you have no gain then you have little return on your investment. If you had no mortgage and just rental income on which you paid tax then it's worthwhile holding onto it for the income. But in general there is less money to be made in holding buy to let property, particularly in future and particularly if you have a mortgage.
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Even the IFS have trashed Hammond's budget !!!

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...he-thumbs-down
His budget could have been much worse. I didn't think it was good or bad really. Of course I object to the billions being put aside for Brexit.
 
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