24-05-2021, 11:46 AM
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Re: A step toward complete democracy?
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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PR results in something MUCH closer to democracy than FPP could in Westminster.Whether universal suffrage is a good thing or not is a very different matter. I believe not.
Women should never have been given the vote?
24-05-2021, 11:54 AM
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Re: A step toward complete democracy?
Originally Posted by JBR
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Penny Mordaunt, a government minister, has proposed that the House of Lords should be abolished in its present form and become an electable body.https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a...aunt-nhh386jb3
She'd certainly have my vote.
This is something that should have happened at least a hundred years ago as they certainly don't represent us ordinary people in any way. The numbers should also be reduced drastically.
24-05-2021, 11:55 AM
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Re: A step toward complete democracy?
Originally Posted by JBR
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I know what you're going to say.Women should never have been given the vote?
24-05-2021, 12:16 PM
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Re: A step toward complete democracy?
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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No, but I do believe there should be proof that people understand the basics of government and economics before being given the opportunity to have a say.
Also, do Americans still have to swear allegiance before they are allowed the vote?
Regardless of whether they do or not, I think it might be a good idea if people had to make certain commitments to the UK before being allowed to have a say in its governance.
24-05-2021, 12:16 PM
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Re: A step toward complete democracy?
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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No, but I do believe there should be proof that people understand the basics of government and economics before being given the opportunity to have a say.
24-05-2021, 12:21 PM
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Re: A step toward complete democracy?
Originally Posted by JBR
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True. So I assume you're not too happy about the SNP's move to give the vote to 16 year-olds and illegal immigrants then?
Once Scotland is independent, and I mean TOTALLY independent they can do what the hell they want.
24-05-2021, 12:21 PM
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Re: A step toward complete democracy?
Originally Posted by JBR
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True. So I assume you're not too happy about the SNP's move to give the vote to 16 year-olds and illegal immigrants then?
Perhaps the SNP will enlarge its voter catchment area to include anyone from anywhere on the planet if legal citizenship isn't a pre-requisite
24-05-2021, 01:24 PM
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Re: A step toward complete democracy?
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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Once Scotland is independent, and I mean TOTALLY independent they can do what the hell they want.
If they ever become independent it will not be long before they are bankrupt, especially if they are run by the SNP.
Even if they should be allowed entry into the EU, they will not be subsidised heavily. That's not what the EU does. It takes what it needs from most of the member states in order to benefit Germany and France.
Fortunately, I believe that there are more sensible Scots in Scotland than the naive 'Bravehearts' who seem convinced that an independent Scotland could afford to live as they do at present without hand-outs from either England or the EU.
24-05-2021, 03:11 PM
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Re: A step toward complete democracy?
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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PR results in something MUCH closer to democracy than FPP could in Westminster.Whether universal suffrage is a good thing or not is a very different matter. I believe not.
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