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And then climate changes and fish migrate north, to norwegian and icelandic waters.....
Only if EU dredgers havent cleaned them all out before then Solly??

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11-08-2020, 11:14 AM
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Re: More Support to Ban Supertrawlers

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Good post Bread ! I particularly liked the bit about applying the
new enviromental laws to the british trawlermen as well as other
countries fishermen!?
Like you l also believe that supertrawlers and corperate owned
fishing companies should be heavily restricted if not completely
banned from our waters ?
The emphasis should be on small local boats to help our coastal
communities re-develop?

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But it will not be the british government that goes that way!

All is not completely lost, however. Although stymied over proposals for the protection zones, conservationists and biologists have recently taken an alternative approach to try to protect Britain's seas. This makes use of 107 marine*Special Areas of Conservation*that were set up in 1992 under the EU Habitats Directive but which were being ignored by Britain. "UK government regulators weren't doing anything about them and were allowing trawling and scallop dredging to take place," says Jean-Luc Solandt of the*Marine Conservation Society. Legal challenges by a number of NGOs have now forced the government to tighten up the running of these special areas.
As a result, several have now banned bottom trawling including one major marine area in Cornwall – which introduced its ban in November. Others include marine sites near the Isles of Scilly, Devon, Dorset, Hampshire, Isle of White, Thanet in Kent, and Northumberland. "The list is not vast but we expect to be adding to it," added Solandt. "It is a start, if nothing else." This point is backed by Roberts. "There is little to be cheerful about when it comes to our marine environment, which makes recent successes with those areas protected by EU law – although limited in extent – all the more pleasing."
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11-08-2020, 11:58 AM
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But it will not be the british government that goes that way!

All is not completely lost, however. Although stymied over proposals for the protection zones, conservationists and biologists have recently taken an alternative approach to try to protect Britain's seas. This makes use of 107 marine*Special Areas of Conservation*that were set up in 1992 under the EU Habitats Directive but which were being ignored by Britain. "UK government regulators weren't doing anything about them and were allowing trawling and scallop dredging to take place," says Jean-Luc Solandt of the*Marine Conservation Society. Legal challenges by a number of NGOs have now forced the government to tighten up the running of these special areas.
As a result, several have now banned bottom trawling including one major marine area in Cornwall – which introduced its ban in November. Others include marine sites near the Isles of Scilly, Devon, Dorset, Hampshire, Isle of White, Thanet in Kent, and Northumberland. "The list is not vast but we expect to be adding to it," added Solandt. "It is a start, if nothing else." This point is backed by Roberts. "There is little to be cheerful about when it comes to our marine environment, which makes recent successes with those areas protected by EU law – although limited in extent – all the more pleasing."
https://www.theguardian.com/environm...empty-the-seas

Far too complicated Solly, 107 different areas to police?
Far better a blanket set of rules based on enviromental principles
applied by one jurisdiction? UK !

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11-08-2020, 12:01 PM
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Far too complicated Solly, 107 different areas to police?
Far better a blanket set of rules based on enviromental principles
applied by one jurisdiction? UK !

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There will be the sea angling license soon, then the rules can be enforced for everyone.
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11-08-2020, 02:43 PM
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There will be the sea angling license soon, then the rules can be enforced for everyone.
Will the enforcers not be tied up in chasing asylum seekers?
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Will the enforcers not be tied up in chasing asylum seekers?
Stick to the subject Solly!!

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Stick to the subject Solly!!

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Okay. Will the enforcers not be tied up catching people smuggling goods into britain? Liz truss warned for this as a complication of brexit. https://www.businessinsider.nl/leake...onal=true&r=US
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13-08-2020, 08:23 AM
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Re: More Support to Ban Supertrawlers

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Okay. Will the enforcers not be tied up catching people smuggling goods into britain? Liz truss warned for this as a complication of brexit. https://www.businessinsider.nl/leake...onal=true&r=US

One of the reasons we should make laws so that a Dutch boat entering UK waters is a criminal offence in future.

January 1st and I hope and pray your fishing industry ends.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/13...and-greenpeace
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13-08-2020, 01:49 PM
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One of the reasons we should make laws so that a Dutch boat entering UK waters is a criminal offence in future.

January 1st and I hope and pray your fishing industry ends.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/13...and-greenpeace
You really seem a nice person, going by such statements.

But why should our industry end? It is where your fishers bring most of their catch.
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13-08-2020, 02:13 PM
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You really seem a nice person, going by such statements.

But why should our industry end? It is where your fishers bring most of their catch.
Your fishing industry needs to be ended quickly. You can't behave responsibly in conservation and sustainability. The Dutch fleet can simply, never ever be trusted in any other countries territory again, as they have proved.

1st January, start towing your ships into dry dock where they can be cut up and sold out for scrap.
 
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