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Originally Posted by Patsy ->
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I agree - its a throwaway society - I see so many old cars on the road and they look fab and obviously still going strong
...and one other thing that most tend to forget. New cars create more pollution, and therefore do more damage to the planet.
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Those were not UK cars so a bit pointless showing them on a UK site
Which UK companies make cars? They're mostly owned by US, Indian, European and Japanese companies aren't they?

Or is that a typical parochial Eurocentric attitude?
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...and one other thing that most tend to forget. New cars create more pollution, and therefore do more damage to the planet.
New cars also provide the wealth that enables the clean up of pollution created by these old cars.
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New cars also provide the wealth that enables the clean up of pollution created by these old cars.
One of my cars is 50 years old. If I am lucky enough to be able to drive that car for another 50 years, it will still not create as much pollution as any modern car. So, in fact, that wealth that is created is used to clean up after modern cars, not old ones.
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09-01-2015, 05:59 PM
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I'd much rather have newer cars, not only from the safety point of view but reliability and cost as well. I've always lost money on old cars. They rusted and/or broke down with one thing or another.

Our 'new' car is a Renault Megane Sport Tourer (or 'estate car' to put it more simply). Had it serviced regularly and it has never let us down. The bodywork is as good now as when we got it 9 years ago.

Can't say that about the Austin A.30, Standard Pennant, Ford 105E, Mini Estate, Morris Marina, Ford Escort, Fiat 131 Mirafiori and others I've owned. They were never kept longer than a couple of years because they all went wrong or failed MOTs so badly that they weren't worth mending.
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09-01-2015, 06:24 PM
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Sorry - gotta tell you.....
One car that I thought was brilliant at the time, (1975) was the NSU Prinz - I nearly bought one!

I actually bought a Hillman Minx as my first car but it had major rust problems and failed its MOT but my very FIRST car was a Ford Anglia 105E that you had to sneak up on to start it!

Entry through the driver's door was a guaranteed no-start so you went in by the passenger door, pulled out the choke half way - then back a smidgeon, then turned the key.

If it didn't fire-up you turned off and pumped the accelerator then tried again!

The brakes were rubbish, the wipers slowed down the faster you went and the headlamps were worse than bycycle lamps but it got you there - just.

I bump-started that car more times than it ever started on the key but the kids loved it - they called it Betty, which was rather odd because their grandmother's name was Betty yet they'd never met her.

Cars these days don't have personality.

My FIAT PUNTO does have a personality though - it's Pedro and it's our little car and we love it. stevmk2
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09-01-2015, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by stevmk2 ->
Sorry - gotta tell you.....
One car that I thought was brilliant at the time, (1975) was the NSU Prinz - I nearly bought one!

I actually bought a Hillman Minx as my first car but it had major rust problems and failed its MOT but my very FIRST car was a Ford Anglia 105E that you had to sneak up on to start it!

Entry through the driver's door was a guaranteed no-start so you went in by the passenger door, pulled out the choke half way - then back a smidgeon, then turned the key.

If it didn't fire-up you turned off and pumped the accelerator then tried again!

The brakes were rubbish, the wipers slowed down the faster you went and the headlamps were worse than bycycle lamps but it got you there - just.

I bump-started that car more times than it ever started on the key but the kids loved it - they called it Betty, which was rather odd because their grandmother's name was Betty yet they'd never met her.

Cars these days don't have personality.

My FIAT PUNTO does have a personality though - it's Pedro and it's our little car and we love it. stevmk2
I am intrigued about this problem with starting the car if you got in via the driver's door - can you elaborate please?
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10-01-2015, 11:24 AM
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I am intrigued about this problem with starting the car if you got in via the driver's door - can you elaborate please?
I can confirm that the 105E needed sneaky tactics when it came to starting the engine. If it thought is was actually going to be needed to drive from A to B it would somehow know this and refuse to start.

I used to whistle a tune and and idly clean the back window. When it was lulled into thinking it didn't have to do anything, I'd quickly leap inside and start the engine. That usually worked. Yes this is a joke ..but it was genuinely temperamental
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10-01-2015, 04:32 PM
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Thanks Mart
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10-01-2015, 05:13 PM
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Maybe not safety wise, but I'd like to see a 2014 car that will last to 380,000 miles like my 1994 Peugeot 405 1.9 turbo diesel has. And still on the original engine and transmission!!
 
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