11-04-2021, 04:34 PM
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Re: World War II
Originally Posted by big ben
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As for the Italians. I would sooner have one Italian at my side during conflict than six Americans.
11-04-2021, 04:35 PM
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Re: World War II
Originally Posted by JBR
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Cameron? Didn't he run away?May? Wasn't she working for the EU?
Both Thatcher and Churchill would have done a far better job. They were both demonstrably strong leaders and stood up for this country, unlike all of the above.
11-04-2021, 04:45 PM
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Re: World War II
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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That he's a pragmatist? If he sends police into crowds to dispel them the police are next day portrayed as brutalist monsters. Best that the majority of the population mitigate the risk. After all how many are at a protest vs the number sitting at home?But I'd be interested as to who could do a better job because IMO he's had his work cut out and I wonder how May would have fared or Cameron. Do you think Cameron would maybe have done a better job? Or who? I'm not a Boris fan but I must say I feel a bit sorry for him having realised his lifetime dream he's really been dealt a bad hand.
I think he's playing a very clever game and it seems to be working nicely if he is too.
From completely wrong-footing the EU prior to the December deadline to showing their requirements regarding Ireland/NI to be unworkable and - of course - the vaccine saga he's managed to keep the UK one step ahead in quite a few ways.
I know some don't see it like that and fair enough but I do, and certain things like Ireland/NI are far from settled yet.
Why make yourself look like a troublemaker to get what the country really needs when the EU are being slowly but surely forced into doing it themselves and in doing so are making themselves look incompetent to boot?
We should have had somebody like him right from the start but I agree with Annie & feel in some ways quite sorry for the bloke.
He has indeed been dealt a bad hand and I'd be surprised if he lasts much beyond the next General Election even if the Tories win it.
How history will remember Boris probably depends upon these next few years.
As for WW2 I don't think that there are any of our current crop including Boris that would have been capable of doing what those at the time did, far less could they have done any better.
I really don't think that Rees-Mogg or Redwood are strong enough.
Who is left that's seriously worthy of consideration?
11-04-2021, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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Again I was thinking about living politicians. Out of the lot we have now.
11-04-2021, 04:56 PM
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Re: World War II
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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Unless they are on the enemy side ..... people always forget they were on a Nazi German side
We hear stories of thousands of Italian troops surrendering to just a handful of Allied soldiers in North Africa. Right from the beginning they wanted to take no part in wars.
11-04-2021, 04:59 PM
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Re: World War II
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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Unless they are on the enemy side ..... people always forget they were on a Nazi German side
Italian politics however is another thing and it's always been chaotic.
That's how Mussolini managed to gain power as Prime Minister back in 1922.
Even now though Italian politics is unpredictable and fractious with Mario Draghi recently being sworn in as the new prime minister of Italy, taking over from the Giuseppe Conte who was pretty much forced to resign.
11-04-2021, 05:51 PM
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Re: World War II
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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Surely the same is true for the French or any other country? But the French always get a bashing on here.
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