04-01-2019, 02:28 PM
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Re: Snowflakes, Gamers, Phone Addicts - British Army Wants You!
Originally Posted by longfellow
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Yes a sign of the times that the armed forces are going soft.Back in the day you had to be a hard basteward or a nutter (I was the latter) to last in the forces now you can be a mammy's boy to put it politely.
I did my training at Strensall just outside of York.
Patrolling an armoury on the moors at night with a baseball bat wtf was that all about. My penalty for telling a officer where to shove it.
Driving to a rail siding just outside of York and unloading a goods wagon (no security) which was full of ammo.
In the days when the IRA would have saw that as a opportunity to stock up.
10 mile jogs daily in vest and plimsolls and shorts in the snow on the moors.Getting back to barracks and putting on full combat gear with pack and SLR and going back out and crawling on our bellies on the moors for what seemed like miles. Spending 2 weeks of hell at the end in battle camp at Otterburn in Northumberland with about 4 feet of snow all around.
So much more enjoyment all for £11 10 shillings a week full board and lodge of course.
My son joined the Army when he was 19 lasted 8 weeks did his tendon in apparently whilst on a run. So he gave it up.
I have a very close friend his son not really the brightest in the light area as just left Sandhurst . He's gonna be a officer so his dad tells me (I smile quietly) yes his start salary is £38000 before he as even decided on what regiment he is going in so his dad says, and then rising considerably once he is in a regiment.
He actually wants to join the Para's then the other mob no one speaks about.
Fair do's to the kid he is a black belt in Karate and is built like a brick *hithouse.
Astonishing when you think he was always ill and such a weedy kid.
Climbs the mountains that we have in the UK Ben Nevis, Scafell Pike and such. I smile again after listening to what he plans to achieve and then I look at the salary and think oh my god that is high.
But then again they do risk their lives for others so why not.
I really do hope he achieves his goals.
Like I say he may not be that intelligent but what he lacks in that department, he as boat loads of physical strength and commitment.
Perfect for a foot soldier but an officer I am not quite sure about.
But then again he as been surprising me all his life and I love him like my own.
It's better to be sensible if you want good people .
04-01-2019, 02:47 PM
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Re: Snowflakes, Gamers, Phone Addicts - British Army Wants You!
Originally Posted by longfellow
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Totally agree Susan and that should be in all forces not just the armed.They should be allowed to conscript into say Police Force,Fire Brigade,Ambulance services like a few other countries do.
Also I feel that when finished their service if they do decide to sign up for longer they should be given the opportunity to be teachers,much like they already train to be mechanics and other trades in the forces.
It really should be looked into again with the Government investing more money into rebuilding this country for the better through Conscription.
Living in a country where everything takes so long to get anything done, we seriously need to get a grip with modern day reality and change many laws as to how this desperate country is being run. And before it is said, ALL political parties are the same - everything would be put on the back burner in favour of their own scheming ways to make money for themselves.
And why don't we tie the 'conscription' in with schools to create a new and more effective way that students are learning. Perhaps instead of teaching them largely useless things such as logarithms and algebra, perhaps they could bring into play a brand new system whereby all children in schools are taught a trade instead, alongside essential subjects such as English and general numeracy skills?
Get them to learn medical skills, social and policing, environmental issues but instead of just giving them books to read include practical lessons so that they could go to actual places of work (Armed Forces bases, police stations, hospitals etc) and begin actual "work" ready for the time when they are at a reasonable age to get into work. They should be disciplined accordingly to show them the right way to perform in later life too. Maybe they could be given some kind of reward as an incentive too.
I think absolutely ALL schoolchildren in their teenage years should be equipped and ready to go straight into work when they leave school. For those who simply are not willing to learn and comply, they should be the ones who are forced to do a new kind of National Service. Get them off the streets before a crime actually happens, so to speak.
04-01-2019, 03:05 PM
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Re: Snowflakes, Gamers, Phone Addicts - British Army Wants You!
Originally Posted by longfellow
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Totally agree Susan and that should be in all forces not just the armed.They should be allowed to conscript into say Police Force,Fire Brigade,Ambulance services like a few other countries do.
Also I feel that when finished their service if they do decide to sign up for longer they should be given the opportunity to be teachers,much like they already train to be mechanics and other trades in the forces.
It really should be looked into again with the Government investing more money into rebuilding this country for the better through Conscription.
In other words - slavery!!!
04-01-2019, 03:15 PM
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Re: Snowflakes, Gamers, Phone Addicts - British Army Wants You!
Originally Posted by Uncle Joe
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In other words - slavery!!!
04-01-2019, 03:20 PM
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Re: Snowflakes, Gamers, Phone Addicts - British Army Wants You!
Originally Posted by susan m
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But uncle Joe why would it be slavery ? I don't see that . Surely it would do our young people good , teach manners and respect , there are so many who don't have this . Surely it would help our country. I don't understand why would it be slavery they would have a home , a job , a salary and security .
Everybody who is able to do so should work for a living. That's part of life and anybody who doesn't want to doesn't deserve to be paid, let alone get any benefits.
04-01-2019, 03:23 PM
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Re: Snowflakes, Gamers, Phone Addicts - British Army Wants You!
Originally Posted by susan m
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But uncle Joe why would it be slavery ? I don't see that . Surely it would do our young people good , teach manners and respect , there are so many who don't have this . Surely it would help our country. I don't understand why would it be slavery they would have a home , a job , a salary and security .
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