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30-01-2020, 02:23 AM
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Re: Netherlands "NethExit" ?

Originally Posted by realspeed ->
has anyone checked to see if they are still alive?
You think that would make a difference
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30-01-2020, 07:41 AM
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Re: Netherlands "NethExit" ?

I wonder what the Civil Servants vote....i m always dubious about that.
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30-01-2020, 11:54 AM
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Simple. We have elections every 4 years. But better still, our civil servants, hard working officials who remain for decades on their posts, make for that stable course of our government.
I've heard everything now! What your Government did by legislating such a move, was to take a bite out of Dutch democracy.

In almost every article written about your Government's decision to ban referendums was its fear that by retaining them, one could eventually be used for the Netherlands to vote to leave the EU with a ''Nexus'.

Before the freedom was snatched away from them, since 2015 you previously had to have a minimum of 300,000 voters call for an advisory referendum and more than 30% turnout for one to take place The problem arose when the decisions made in these referendums were counter-productive to your Government's wishes, hence, when your new Dutch coalition government of the VVD, CDA and ChristenUnie and the D66 took office in 2017, priority was to get rid of them as soon as possible.

Rutte is renowned for his hatred of referendums, and was instrumental in the move to ban them completely, even though it was one of the coalition partners, D66 themselves who first brought in the referendum legislation a few years earlier with the 300,000 votes and 30% turnout rule in 2015.

So please, why do you insist that the whole of the Netherlands does not need referendums because the people trust the government to make the right decisions! The people had no say in it at all.
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30-01-2020, 01:03 PM
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Re: Netherlands "NethExit" ?

Originally Posted by shropshiregirl ->
I've heard everything now! What your Government did by legislating such a move, was to take a bite out of Dutch democracy.

In almost every article written about your Government's decision to ban referendums was its fear that by retaining them, one could eventually be used for the Netherlands to vote to leave the EU with a ''Nexus'.

Before the freedom was snatched away from them, since 2015 you previously had to have a minimum of 300,000 voters call for an advisory referendum and more than 30% turnout for one to take place The problem arose when the decisions made in these referendums were counter-productive to your Government's wishes, hence, when your new Dutch coalition government of the VVD, CDA and ChristenUnie and the D66 took office in 2017, priority was to get rid of them as soon as possible.

Rutte is renowned for his hatred of referendums, and was instrumental in the move to ban them completely, even though it was one of the coalition partners, D66 themselves who first brought in the referendum legislation a few years earlier with the 300,000 votes and 30% turnout rule in 2015.

So please, why do you insist that the whole of the Netherlands does not need referendums because the people trust the government to make the right decisions! The people had no say in it at all.

National elections will soon be a thing of the past in the EU.

So far, here is the plan ....

Step 1 : Remove the term "country" and replace it with "Member State". Refer to all other countries outside the EU as "3rd Countries", no longer using terms such as "sovereign" and independent" and "nations".

Step 2 : Get rid of borders between "EU Member States"

Step 3 : Get rid of national identities (such as flags, currencies etc) - replace them with an Euro, EU Flag, EU Anthem etc

Step 4 : Rename member states as "Regions of the EU" (coming soon !)

Step 5 : Remove national parties and national elections and replace with the EU Parliament (coming soon !)
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30-01-2020, 03:03 PM
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Re: Netherlands "NethExit" ?

Originally Posted by Bread ->
National elections will soon be a thing of the past in the EU.

So far, here is the plan ....

Step 1 : Remove the term "country" and replace it with "Member State". Refer to all other countries outside the EU as "3rd Countries", no longer using terms such as "sovereign" and independent" and "nations".

Step 2 : Get rid of borders between "EU Member States"

Step 3 : Get rid of national identities (such as flags, currencies etc) - replace them with an Euro, EU Flag, EU Anthem etc

Step 4 : Rename member states as "Regions of the EU" (coming soon !)

Step 5 : Remove national parties and national elections and replace with the EU Parliament (coming soon !)
Step 6: call britain the outlands.
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30-01-2020, 03:08 PM
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Re: Netherlands "NethExit" ?

Originally Posted by shropshiregirl ->
I've heard everything now! What your Government did by legislating such a move, was to take a bite out of Dutch democracy.

In almost every article written about your Government's decision to ban referendums was its fear that by retaining them, one could eventually be used for the Netherlands to vote to leave the EU with a ''Nexus'.
If it were true, at least you can say it was effective. There is no taste to leave the EU in the netherlands.
On the other hands that taste is also absent in countries that still use referenda. So your argument fails.
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30-01-2020, 03:11 PM
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Re: Netherlands "NethExit" ?

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
Step 6: call britain the outlands.
While we call it, independent sovereign nation. Something you will never be able to do again or any of the 26 remaining gulags of Germany,
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30-01-2020, 04:32 PM
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Re: Netherlands "NethExit" ?

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While we call it, independent sovereign nation. Something you will never be able to do again or any of the 26 remaining gulags of Germany,
Oh, that would be simple, just invoke article 50. It's only the british who take 4 years to put that into reality. But then, eat your cake while cherry picking. It doesn't get much weirder.
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30-01-2020, 05:09 PM
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Re: Netherlands "NethExit" ?

Originally Posted by summer ->
I wonder what the Civil Servants vote....i m always dubious about that.
In my experience that depends on the department they work for.
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20-03-2020, 02:24 PM
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Re: Netherlands "NethExit" ?

Originally Posted by Bread ->
According to Daniel Hannan, three countries will be next to leave the EU.

1. Netherlands
2. Denmark
3. Italy

Sounds about right ...

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/12...iel-hannan-spt
Nope, wrong.
 
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