08-08-2020, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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They are all breaking the law and acting out a form of anarchy. No different from statue topplers. There is a crossover. Are they savages too? Some are just as if not more radical in their views. Is it that those protesting who are not middle class/white repulse but hunt sabs are ok because their territory links into Jilly cooper novels.
The reason it is wrong is in the objective more than the action.
Are the hunt sabs savages? No, but ten points for playing the race AND class card in one go. Shame it is easily trumped in both cases
08-08-2020, 11:27 AM
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It's your perception of the objective that is the issue here. Hunt sabs, eco warriors etc have a far more organised agenda that will eventually have far more impact on the way we live. You are on their side so you don't see them as the threat.08-08-2020, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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It's your perception of the objective that is the issue here. Hunt sabs, eco warriors etc have a far more organised agenda that will eventually have far more impact on the way we live. You are on their side so you don't see them as the threat.
08-08-2020, 12:21 PM
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My first big smile of the dayPresident of animal rights charity PETA calls the term 'pets' derogatory to pets
Ingrid Newkirk, of Surrey, says that animals 'are not your cheap burglar alarm'
She compared calling animals pets to the treatment of women before feminism
08-08-2020, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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What about hunt saboteurs and those people who chain themselves to trees when the road diggers come in? Or those animal rights protesters who break into labs and free the animals....are they also thugs and savages? They are often middle class and very polite/well spoken in person.
You need to remove your blinkers and recognise these thugs for what they are - anarchists and radicals intent on destroying democracy. They couldn't achieve their aims at the ballot-box, so now they are using terror tactics to bring down the government by fulminating insurrection.
08-08-2020, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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WRONG. I'm not on "their side" at all. As for the effect hunt sabs or Animal Rights lot - precisely how are they going to have ANY impact on the way that we live?
There's nothing wrong with being on their side, I'm just making the comparison between a cause that many have sympathies for on the one hand and another they might not understand as it's not middle class/white centred. People cherry pick causes, take sides. It's human nature.
08-08-2020, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Judd
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Clutching at straws with your comparison. What you claim about these acts which target specific groups, is nothing like the violent and destructive protests taking part in almost every town and city. These so-called peaceful protest threaten and disrupt whole areas and communities causing widespread damage to properties, physical assaults on private individuals and the police force and wholesale destruction on a large scale. You need to remove your blinkers and recognise these thugs for what they are - anarchists and radicals intent on destroying democracy. They couldn't achieve their aims at the ballot-box, so now they are using terror tactics to bring down the government by fulminating insurrection.
08-08-2020, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Vlad
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My first big smile of the dayI shan’t pet my dog anymore, I will companion him
I'm not a big fan of PETA but they do provoke thought.
08-08-2020, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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Try wearing a mink coat near some animal rights activists and you will find out....an activist in the US attacked and attempted to stab a woman wearing what turned out to be a fake fur hat.There's nothing wrong with being on their side, I'm just making the comparison between a cause that many have sympathies for on the one hand and another they might not understand as it's not middle class/white centred. People cherry pick causes, take sides. It's human nature.
When it comes to the attacks by the savages hiding behind the Black Lives Matter nonsense what that is not a cause, it is an anti-establishment (note lower case "e") anti civilisation gathering of the tribes against their betters because they simply are incapable of achieving what we are capable of doing but they can not.
08-08-2020, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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I have often felt guilty about having a dog. Not because I read PETA but I remember a disapproving look from a vegan friend when she heard / met him as a puppy. It made me think about the situation differently. Dogs are technically like our slaves. They have no freedom and learn to love their owners because we give them everything in a gilded cage. They are bred into contorted shapes that make them suffer and kept on a leash or put in cages. The puppy breeding industry has some terrible cruelties. It's such a conceited relationship (on our part). I'm not a big fan of PETA but they do provoke thought.
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