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Wrong ! Carter was not driven from Washington because of his intelligence or decency. America's rose up in righteous indignation and ran him out of office because he completely blew it with the Iran hostage situation. Iran knew full well that Carter was a limp noodle who would never use the U.S. military. Iran released the hostages on Pres Reagan's very 1st day in office because they were scared s***less of him.

Moreover, Obama's middle name is IN FACT Hussein.

I care about two things only.
1.) Continuing to build the southern border wall.
2.) Beating the snot out of terrorist groups.

The democrats simply do not have the guts or brains to do either. As long as Pres. Trump does both, I will continue to support him.
Are you under the impression that Carter was flying one of the helicopters? The failure was of one small unit in a very large military. C'est la guerre. The president's part was to order the rescue, he did.

If you don't understand why Carter is a decent, intelligent, and honorable man, it is because you were not and are not paying attention.

While the current commander in chief was dodging the draft, and swindling contractors, Carter was the captain of a nuclear submarine. I would think that even a conservative could see a disparity of character between the two, with Trump the decisive loser.

Carter is still serving the American people, Trump has never served anyone but Trump.
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Are you under the impression that Carter was flying one of the helicopters? The failure was of one small unit in a very large military. C'est la guerre. The president's part was to order the rescue, he did.

If you don't understand why Carter is a decent, intelligent, and honorable man, it is because you were not and are not paying attention.

While the current commander in chief was dodging the draft, and swindling contractors, Carter was the captain of a nuclear submarine. I would think that even a conservative could see a disparity of character between the two, with Trump the decisive loser.

Carter is still serving the American people, Trump has never served anyone but Trump.
The General falls on his sword when a battle goes wrong.
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I go to the BBC and Reuters and NPR for my news. I have't tuned to CNN since the Gulf War. I can understand your praise of Ronald Ray Gun and Trump, both are/were second tier entertainers.
The BBC is worse than CNN
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01-02-2020, 10:56 PM
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Savvy, Carter had 444 days to solve the Iranian hostage situation. The commander in chief of the worlds most powerful military had at his disposal an unlimited choice of options. He FAILED to act. Get it ? Failed !

I have no doubt that you would put ANOTHER limp noodle socialist in the oval office this coming November. That is not going to happen. Pres. Trump will win as long as he continues to build the southern border wall and destroy the top leaders of terrorist groups.
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Savvy, Carter had 444 days to solve the Iranian hostage situation. The commander in chief of the worlds most powerful military had at his disposal an unlimited choice of options. He FAILED to act. Get it ? Failed !

I have no doubt that you would put ANOTHER limp noodle socialist in the oval office this coming November. That is not going to happen. Pres. Trump will win as long as he continues to build the southern border wall and destroy the top leaders of terrorist groups.
He will continue to lead as long as simpletons continue to be fooled into voting against their own, and their nation's best interests. You are right about one thing, the wall will be Trump's legacy, the largest boondoggle in American history. Hopefully it will be big enough to engrave all of his lies into.

The Senate of the US just handed him unlimited powers. It will be interesting to watch where he goes from here. We got rid of King George to be shackled with King Donald the Terrible.

You are right about my voting strategy; anyone but Trump.
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Respectfully, not all of us agree with Savvy's perspective:

Trump: A man with too many character flaws to count and has made a mockery of what it means to be presidential (Twitter, mocking a photographer with cerebral palsy, and arguing with an climate activist, autistic teenager come to mind). However....

Trump has to be credited with following through with one of the main reasons he was elected; policies and actions that have stimulated the economy that Obama administration could not.

Businesses are booming, the markets are soaring, wages are up, interest rates are low, inflation is low, and we have the lowest unemployment rate since the Great Depression.

(Warning though, turning a blind eye to the former by selling out for the later is how Germany ended up with Hitler. It's a good thing we are fierce about our Constitutional framework)

Trump scaled backed many of Obama's insidious, weak globalist policies. Trump's loose canon, brash, win or lose, mentality of world politics is concerning, but on the flip side, he's not frightened to engage with the likes of Putin and assert himself on behalf of the US, something that Obama recoiled at doing. Obama's personal fear of Putin would be funny if it didn't matter so much. Ask the people of Crimea, Syrian Kurds, Zoroastrians...

Trump has brought more balance to the circuit courts and the Supreme Court that had become outrageously politically liberal. (That said, it is deeply concerning that we are talking about political balance when judges should always be apolitical ideological Constitutionalists.

Obama: Obama will go down as one of the worst US presidents because his weak policies needlessly deepened and extended the Great Recession for years.

When the Great Recession hit, Obama was preoccupied with a (highly-flawed) healthcare program and fringe group issues rather than measures to stimulate the economy that really needed a more aggressive budgetary and monetary plan. As a civil rights attorney, he was significantly illiterate on economic and monetary policy, so his day-to-day work centered more on what he knew that what was needed. As it turns out, millions of voters in poverty cared a lot more about closing factories than what bathroom people use.

A globalist and diarrhetic apologist, Obama weakened U.S. global trade and diplomacy. (His policies made me fully understand why the UK chose Brexit.)

Carter
: In many ways, the opposite of Trump. Model citizen and human being (Habitat for Humanity for starters), but a terrible president, especially on the economy. Took over during stagflation (stagnant growth, very high inflation) and made it worse. Unemployment increased to the highest levels since the Great Depression at over 10%.

With a last-ditch effort, Carter loosened regulations, which backfired causing more job losses AND the policies that would eventually lead to the the Great Recession of 2008.

Carter's handling of the Iran Hostage Crisis birthed and empowered the fanatical Islamic terrorism that we face today. Iran was ready to let the hostages go, but waited until Reagan was in office as an insult to Carter, though I agree with Bakerman that Iran dreaded what was coming with Reagan's presidency.

As an interesting aside, Carter prevented a meltdown of a nuclear plant in Canada when he was a young lieutenant in the US Navy. It's an incredible story worth reading.

The Impeachment: I am ever impressed by the brilliance of our founding fathers in creating a a three branch system that included critical checks and balances. Like the outcome or not, the impeachment process was carried out per design and we either accept the results or vote our displeasure in upcoming elections.We also have the difficult but not impossible choice of amending impeachment proceedings.

As an aside, the failure of the Senate to call witnesses was mostly to blame on House Democrats who, in trying to get their part done before Christmas, just didn't take the time to dig deeper and present a compelling enough case to force the Senate to act.
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02-02-2020, 01:54 AM
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Surfermom,
A well thought out, and phrased monologue. You would make an excellent editorial columnist. Seriously.

I am pleased that the impeachment is nearing an end. Perhaps now we can move ahead with other pressing matters. Unfortunately, the democrats, which now control The House, have not gotten over their loss in the 2016 national election and it appears that they will continue their temper tantrum and will seek ways to block any substantive legislation.
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02-02-2020, 08:34 AM
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Surfermom,
A well thought out, and phrased monologue. You would make an excellent editorial columnist. Seriously.
There are enough typos there to make my high school English teacher revoke my diploma. "Loose canon" instead of "cannon"? Ugh. Thank you, nonetheless.
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I go to the BBC and Reuters and NPR for my news. I have't tuned to CNN since the Gulf War. I can understand your praise of Ronald Ray Gun and Trump, both are/were second tier entertainers.
BBC? Good grief it would be hard to find a more sickeningly socialist indoctrinated shower of politically correct biased snowflakes than the ONCE reputable BBC USED to be.
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The General falls on his sword when a battle goes wrong.
Carter's anti-Semitism is legendary.
 
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