Re: Churchill NZ under lockdown!
Originally Posted by
The Artful Todger
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No, the issue is the "religion". If the dictates of Islam were not as they are the truly devout would not be acting as they do.
Generalization is not such a good thing. Extremism is the root cause of the ME wars, and mostly instigated by outsiders with a twisted interpretation of the religions and pertaining to their own 'rules' and ' Jihad ideology', which is very different . (Triggered by an invasion by US and ourselves.)
So much of it on the internet and anyone with a specific hatred will dig deep and end up with views of extremism, take sides and join groups. It works both ways.
A huge percentage of fighters in Syria, are from outside such as Chechens. The Salafist movement connected to the Sunni (formed in opposition to 19th century Western Imperialism) closely connected to the Wahhabi Movement, which is Islam of Saudi Arabia, that we support ,provide arms to and drink tea with.
It's the Wahhabi that are the threat in my understanding.
and as we know Saudi have some cruel practices.
And so we have the Syrian and Iraqi's of Muslim descent who lived their lives peacefully being ravaged by extremism. Escaping for the horrors and being demonised in the West for being 'Muslims'
We need to refer to the majority as people , with a national identity, just like we are (English, Welsh, British etc.) not all banded under the heading of 'The Muslims', said with a bitter distaste and spat out from ones mouth. Yes, Bush and Blair were the first on a public platform. The general opinion seems to be no different to the persecution of the Jews. Always referred to as 'The Jews' ..
Just like those extremists refer to us in this country as 'The Christians' and Christians are to be persecuted. You might not be a Christian though !
Because some followers of extreme Islam have a different ideology, it does not make all sects of Islam terrorists .
If we take a step back in time, 600 yrs ago, our own people were being beheaded or burned at the stake for 'Heresy '
Anyone having an operation in this country would probably be glad of a Muslim doctor if it saved ones life.
My consultant was Muslim, without him I doubt I would be here to tell the tale.