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Re: Hypocrisy Democracy

Originally Posted by OldGreyFox ->
Will you be contributing in other topics on the forum Fosterbrad? Or have you joined just to comment on the Brexit thread?


There does seem to be a lot of it about lately Foxy. Still, we are all ''gullible'' enough to take part in their ramblings.
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03-03-2019, 12:14 PM
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Re: Hypocrisy Democracy

To repeat: the UK is governed by Parliament, not by referenda.

You can slice it whatever way you want, but no Parliament or Government is legally or constitutionally obliged to "honour" the result of a referendum, whatever it may have promised beforehand.

To suggest otherwise is to misunderstand fundamentally the way that the UK is governed.
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03-03-2019, 12:23 PM
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Re: Hypocrisy Democracy

Originally Posted by Moscow ->
Brexiteers/Leavers don't 'fear' another referendum just disagree with having one until the result of the first has been honoured

If you support another referendum you have no honour.
More Liever BS
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Re: Hypocrisy Democracy

Originally Posted by OldFogey ->
To repeat: the UK is governed by Parliament, not by referenda.

You can slice it whatever way you want, but no Parliament or Government is legally or constitutionally obliged to "honour" the result of a referendum, whatever it may have promised beforehand.

To suggest otherwise is to misunderstand fundamentally the way that the UK is governed.
Agree wholeheartedly with you. Parliament is Supreme and Referenda are advisory. The doctrine that ‘Parliament can do anything except bind its successor ‘ which is the official ideology of the British Constitution. One curious but logical consequence is that both guarantees enshrined in Acts of Parliament and supposed mandates provided via referenda are worthless. However, critics of our supposed parliamentary system of democracy, of which I am one, would point out: (a) that parliamentary sovereignty has become a cover for executive despotism, because Parliament neither can nor wishes to scrutinise executive actions purportedly done in its name; (b) that citizens rights ought to be entrenched, and/or that such constitutional matters should be kept out of the hands of oliticians.
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03-03-2019, 12:32 PM
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Re: Hypocrisy Democracy

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More Liever BS
At least he can spell Banchory......
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03-03-2019, 12:53 PM
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Re: Hypocrisy Democracy

Originally Posted by Realist ->
lol and another stooge alias appears.

Just utterly laughable.

NO SECOND REFERENDUM


The UK people KNEW EXACTLY what they were voting for

To get out of the corrupt EU cesspit, a cesspit we should never have been sold into in the first place. We were taken in their by stealth, fraud and skulduggery by corrupt politicians and now we want out and to redress the balance.

If you support a 2nd referendum then you don't support democracy and the democratic process simple as. That being the case you should go and live in an un-democratic country. If your intention is to attempt to change and remove the democratic process of this country then you can be assured that good free citizens of this country will oppose you to the bitter end using whatever force is necessary. That's because threatening our democracy is no different to an invasion or war by any other name.

There will be NO SECOND REFERENDUM so you're gonna have to man up and abide by the democratic decision.

There is absolutely no basis for any 2nd referendum
There are other features to democracy, it is not simply a matter of majority rule, which is the definition your reply appears to propound. For me using a blunt tool like a plebiscite to invade on peoples rights and freedoms is the ‘mantle of tyranny’.
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03-03-2019, 02:06 PM
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Re: Hypocrisy Democracy

What's the collective noun for stooges? A Union of Stooges perhaps.
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Re: Hypocrisy Democracy

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What's the collective noun for stooges? A Union of Stooges perhaps.

A union of scumbags in a 'nasty party' !!!
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03-03-2019, 03:51 PM
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Re: Hypocrisy Democracy

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You are a Labour Party supporter.



FYI the UK electorate knew what it voted for, millions had been awaiting decades for the opportunity.

FYI - I do not think the UK electorate had any idea what it was really voting for, as evidenced by the debacle we now have in trying to untangle this monumental farce. What I fail to understand is how if people knew what they were doing they did not have any comprehension of how difficult it was going to be and how divided people's wishes were actually going to be - As for waiting decades - I wonder how you come to know this. To me this is simply another (of many) ignorant opinions - not knowledge.
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03-03-2019, 04:01 PM
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Re: Hypocrisy Democracy

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You noticed that Labour are full of racist shitbags then.

More concerned with Palestinian issues than issues facing working class Brits.

How TF can you support those racist shitbags?

What a limited and vulgar way of expressing yourself Moscow.
 
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