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Originally Posted by Julie1962 ->
We as in the west who meddle often in places we should keep our noses out of.
But it wasn't just The West. With the exception of some of the Arab states it was a global decision finally approved in the UN in 1948.
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It's not something Muslims around the world seem to be bothered about, it's the Middle East where tribal lines are drawn that you find hatred. If you really think a Polish cleaner in UK is at all bothered about Jewish people you have the wrong end of the stick.
If you think that she doesn't then you've got a lot to learn about islam.

Take the ignoble Qur'an. In particular surah 5 verse 51.

My quick and dirty translation.

All believers (in the truth) do not become friends with Jews and the Christians because they are only ever friends of each other.

Anyone who does befriend them becomes the same as them and so looses allah's grace, mercy, and guidance.
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19-08-2019, 02:34 PM
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If you think that she doesn't then you've got a lot to learn about islam.

Take the ignoble Qur'an. In particular surah 5 verse 51.

My quick and dirty translation.

All believers (in the truth) do not become friends with Jews and the Christians because they are only ever friends of each other.

Anyone who does befriend them becomes the same as them and so looses allah's grace, mercy, and guidance.
Islam like Christianity is open to interpretation, my family members always go to the nicest Imam you could meet. He is a man of peace and reconciliation and joins many other religions at our joint celebrations and worships. Now that's what middle east needs some joint worshipping and celebrations. Might all see they have more in common than they have differences.
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19-08-2019, 02:40 PM
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Yasser Arafat went to mass every Christmas in Bethlehem .

What’s needed is for the Palestinian leaders to stop inciting their people to murder Israelis.
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19-08-2019, 02:48 PM
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Re: The so called palestinians just can't stop.

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Islam like Christianity is open to interpretation, my family members always go to the nicest Imam you could meet. He is a man of peace and reconciliation and joins many other religions at our joint celebrations and worships. Now that's what middle east needs some joint worshipping and celebrations. Might all see they have more in common than they have differences.
The Qur'an is believed to be the perfectly transcribed word of the allah thing (that was actually invented by the great liar, mohammad.)

Maybe you could come up with how interpretation of the instruction not to befriend Jews and Christians could be made to mean anything other than what is written?
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19-08-2019, 03:21 PM
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Having watched your posts it appears you are too wrapped up in religion and in your beliefs. Until you loosen up you and your kind will never ever find peace.

You don't see members spouting on about those of us who belong to the Church of England and how we broke away from the Catholic Faith

This is a good example of how to beliefs can live side by side which is what your lot should be doing.
Just stop and think of the carnage that would create here in the UK , C of E constantly fighting the Catholics among us with bombs and guns.

So get off your high horse and accept things and not argue and spout on about it, we, or I, am getting a bit fed up with your constant repartee on the same issue
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20-08-2019, 09:56 AM
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Latest news emerging from Gaza city is that it is a "volcano" preparing to erupt against the Jews (their words). Check out the Jerusalem Post et al.

Seemingly the inadequate/proportional response to the needling that had taken place meant that the palests couldn't use it as an excuse for the imminent big time attack.
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20-08-2019, 11:43 AM
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Why would Israel be asking other countries to take Gazans (Arabs) who would like to leave Gaza ? Offering to pay their fare. Generosity is overwhelming !

Pretty sure I would want to leave Gaza too, so I don't see that being the answer to their problems ... Maybe Trump would like to buy Gaza for $55 Billion , minus the Arabs or maybe there's more to come from Israel, as threatened last week ?


"Israel is even willing to arrange traffic for them, open one of the Negev airports and arrange for them to travel outside. This issue has come up before the Cabinet several times," said the senior official.
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20-08-2019, 11:54 AM
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Why not it’s one way out .
I wouldn’t like to live under the brutal oppression of Hamas.
The danger is that it will be only Hamas approved operatives that would be allowed to take up this offer.

I feel sure lots would love to leave .
The only thing is what Arab countries would take them ?
Arabs don’t want a bunch of grievance ridden trouble makers either .

Gaza without it’s present government could become a great place .
It’s prime real estate on the Med .
It could become a prime tourist destination especially for other Arab countries .
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Re: The so called palestinians just can't stop.

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Why would Israel be asking other countries to take Gazans (Arabs) who would like to leave Gaza ? Offering to pay their fare. Generosity is overwhelming !

Pretty sure I would want to leave Gaza too, so I don't see that being the answer to their problems ... Maybe Trump would like to buy Gaza for $55 Billion , minus the Arabs or maybe there's more to come from Israel, as threatened last week ?


"Israel is even willing to arrange traffic for them, open one of the Negev airports and arrange for them to travel outside. This issue has come up before the Cabinet several times," said the senior official.
One of the claims by palist hatemeisters is that people in Gaza city and the whole Gaza strip are being held hostage prisoners.

By offering to assist those (probably very few) who want to get out of the snake pit the Israeli government are proving that this claim is (yet another) lie.

Smart, and actually genuinely humanitarian offer.
 
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