01-02-2020, 03:11 PM
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Re: We're free at last
Originally Posted by shropshiregirl
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We will remain an integral part of the continent of Europe, physically and culturally. We can be the EU’s strongest friend as well as its neighbour. But if our two sides cannot forge a trade deal it will be because of monumental failure by the EU to recognise the new reality.
I see the rest of this year as a waste of both our time and our money. I'm afraid it won't happen, but we should just tell them, "OK, if a year isn't enough time for you to come to some agreement, we'll walk away now and leave you to it."
No more payments, no need for any more discussion. We'll just trade with the world under WTO rules.
It's simple: we, as customers, will buy what we want from whoever will sell us it at the cheapest, or at least the best and most acceptable cost.
I think I am probably like most people: I don't like being dictated to.
01-02-2020, 03:52 PM
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Re: We're free at last
Originally Posted by Realist
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We are NOT free yet in any sense. The suggestions that we are free are media programming to appease the angry masses who are sick of the establishment corruption trying to thwart BrExit.What they are doing is duping people and tossing them a bone to go away with and nibble on in a corner.
Meanwhile nothing has changed.
We are still in the Single Market
Still under the control of the EU and ECJ
All that has happened is we have agreed to enter into a period of negoitiation for a proper WIthdrawal Deal.
But we have seen that for 3 years the EU has refused to offer us any real Withdrawal Deal so we would be very naive to think they will now.
WHat we will all see in the next 12 months is a total betrayal by the current parliament (whom we have voted in for 5 years with a huge majority).
They will now cede everything to the EU and deliver BRINO, BrExit In Name Only.
All we will have is a pretend exit from the EU for a few years and then they will formally being us back in again as if nothing had ever happened.
A very long way to go yet. The real battle has only just begun.
BrExiteers can not afford to sit back and think it's "job done"
It very much is not.
Remainers and corrupt politicians will continue to thwart the process will the same vigour as before. Don't be duped by media BS conditioning.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/12...t-latest-video
01-02-2020, 05:09 PM
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Re: We're free at last
HiThe Withdrawal Agreement has been signed, so that is that.
There is no "we" any,more.
Vast amounts of our Industry are controlled by Foreign Firms, who will do whatever they see fit for the benefit of their shareholders.
We have a lot to do in a short time.
We need to get on with it.
01-02-2020, 06:04 PM
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Re: We're free at last
Originally Posted by Cinderella
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It should be clear by now to PM that he has toughen up, the public expects, if negotiations stall in the following months then walk away. Let UK take a chance, on trading with the rest of the world, outside of the EU trade bubble.
We will still be reliant upon the EU for many things for many years.
Car Parts is a good example, machinery parts, etc etc.
01-02-2020, 06:06 PM
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Re: We're free at last
Originally Posted by realspeed
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The Germans can sell their cars elswhere, The French can do the same with their Onions, The Dutch can do the same with their flowers, The Spanish would be lost without the British tourist industry so we should go elsewhere.These few things would quickly bring down the EU, or and we should keep the fish we catch for ourselves, That would really Ruin The EU members
We need to keep them onside and help and support them where we can.....
If the EU prevents, say German vehicles being sold here, it will be the EU who will come under pressure not us if we are willing to trade with the Germans..
01-02-2020, 06:51 PM
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Re: We're free at last
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiWe will still be reliant upon the EU for many things for many years.
Car Parts is a good example, machinery parts, etc etc.
01-02-2020, 07:33 PM
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Re: We're free at last
Originally Posted by Cinderella
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EU problem now is money and not knowing how much it has to spend.
In my experience this is one of the most easy exercises.
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/pres.../en/IP_19_6039
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