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Your views are revisionist. Certainly not racist to state that Nazi atrocities were enthusiastically carried out by Germans.

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I’m not keen on monkeys either ( except orangutans and gorillas)

Alas monkeys like me and always want to jump on me arghhh!

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My dear my views are absolutely not revisionist, they can all be traced back to fact.



Secondly while it certainly is anything but racist to condemn what Nazis did it absolutely IS racist to condemn German people of today in the way that you have.

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If it is racist then the post war order in Germany was racist in implementing an intensive education campaign of German guilt about the war. So all schoolchildren were brought up to be ashamed of what Germany had done. Now there is a backlash against that with the German media and young Germans rebelling against this view of their heritage. Dramas such as "Generation War" romanticising the reality of German initiation and involvement in horrific acts :

https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/04/09...berlin-europe/

It's hardly a secret that the neo-Nazi movement is seeing a big increase in popularity as a result of this relaxation in attitudes to the past. It's been all over news reports. It's never gone away. Doesn't matter what the provocation is there is absolutely no excuse for acts like this :

https://www.timesofisrael.com/german...agogue-attack/

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Every revisionist says the same.

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Annie, what do you know first hand about Germany then and now? Obviously you'll only know what you've been told about Germany during the period of Nazi rule but what do you know FIRST HAND about post war Germany? Where have you been? Where have you spent any time? For how long?

As for your highly offensive comments about Germany they really are highly offensive and very racist.

The post war campaign to address Nazism wasn't racist. It was political education for people who had been fed Nazi propaganda so that's one load of nonsense set aside. Resurgence of far right politics? With what Europeans been going through as a result of immigrant crime and worse there's no wonder there's a reaction and the growing Judenhaas is coming from one group of immigrants with a religious imperative that the must hate Jews.

I'm going to end on that note with the hope that when it comes to Germany and the German folk you will take the opportunity to learn about them rather than just spout racist bile.

End of.

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Most people on here haven't lived in a box. I don't have to give a list of credentials just because you think you know more than anyone about every subject. This is not "racist bile" but facts. There are real Neo Nazi organisations gaining popularity in modern-day Germany and they really did have a massive de-nazification programme for decades. That really did have the aim of making Germans feel guilt and shame for the war. The Generation war drama really does sanitise history and it has really been given a lot of media attention for that reason.

You can keep calling it racist but that is in fact your attempt to close the discussion. It seems you are totally biased without justifying your views. You won't for some reason say anything negative about Germany's involvement in WWII. There is a real risk of far right resurgence in Germany today and that's a fact. You do not want to openly discuss what is happening there in this day and age. There is no justification for that or for violence towards immigrants. Just as there was no justification for its rise before WWII. The German State has just banned a far right group called Combat 18 Deutschland which was spreading antisemitic hate :

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...18-deutschland

The far right's movements to limit and control culture :

https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...re-war/598978/

Another report just this month from Bloomberg :

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...ny-s-far-right

Are these all "racist" reports?

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Auschwitz in colour is on on more 4 it’s harrowing .

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Nothing has changed since the days of the Final Solution.

There is no reason think that Germany has to be the next nation to start a world war or mass extermination. We have a rise in White Nationalist groups in the US. We have people goosestepping in the streets praising Adolph Hitler. We have a president that refers to them as good people....

Every Pogram starts with hate speech and we are seeing this even from our President. Trump implied that all Spanish speaking immigrants are rapist and murderers. He is obsessed about building a wall around our country to keep the "vermin" out.

It would be impossible for good Christian nation to commit mass murder of other people, but if you label groups as sub-human, it becomes much easier.

Never again? Yea, right.

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The allies were notified of the atrocities in Auschwitz as early as 1940. In 1944 Jewish representatives asked the US government to bomb the death camp. They refused. I don't really understand the arguments. They could have bombed the railway lines to stop more prisoners being brought there. They didn't want to risk going over German occupied territory as it was a risk, but surely it was a risk worth taking? :

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...cond-world-war

It appears that it was simply low on the list of priorities :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4175045.stm