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Re: So what benefit has membership of the EU been to us?

All that, and we got poorer??

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Re: So what benefit has membership of the EU been to us?

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All that, and we got poorer??

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I think it is unfair to blame the EU for Britain getting poorer Assman, you need to look closer to home. You could argue that Britain got poorer inspite of the benefits of EU membership.

Leadership of the UK since 1945 has been appalling. The 3.5 years of Brexit merely demonstrates just how appalling.
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Re: So what benefit has membership of the EU been to us?

It means that people no longer have the right to live and work in Europe .
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Re: So what benefit has membership of the EU been to us?

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Nothing there is a benefit exclusively associated to EU membership.

Things funded by the EU are only a tiny return on the money the EU has taken from us and as for "free movement". Pfft. Some benefit.
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I suppose we can't ignore friction-less trade around Europe and i suppose the European arrest warrant... but these are things we could have achieved without being members in fact thinking about it is there anything .... not sure there is.
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Re: So what benefit has membership of the EU been to us?

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It means that people no longer have the right to live and work in Europe .
Thankfully it will, or certainly SHOULD work both ways.

Now we can and certainly SHOULD drain the swamp.
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I think it is unfair to blame the EU for Britain getting poorer Assman, you need to look closer to home. You could argue that Britain got poorer inspite of the benefits of EU membership.

Leadership of the UK since 1945 has been appalling. The 3.5 years of Brexit merely demonstrates just how appalling.
I am in complete agreement with what you say Brucy, and part of
that appalling leadership was the decision to take us INTO
Europe!! And then to allow the gradual erosion of all our institutions
especially the complete giveaway of our fishing industry
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Re: So what benefit has membership of the EU been to us?

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I am in complete agreement with what you say Brucy, and part of
that appalling leadership was the decision to take us INTO
Europe!! And then to allow the gradual erosion of all our institutions
especially the complete giveaway of our fishing industry
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The problem now Assman is that after 31 Jan 2020 there is no one left to blame except yourselves.

I wonder who will be the scapegoat then?
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Re: So what benefit has membership of the EU been to us?

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Good list Devo.

But at the end of the day, when all is told, we can never boast a clear profit, even if some expenditure must be regarded as long term investment. So, understandably, the EU is not for the aggrieved amongst us.
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Re: So what benefit has membership of the EU been to us?

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Good list Devo.

But at the end of the day, when all is told, we can never boast a clear profit, even if some expenditure must be regarded as long term investment. So, understandably, the EU is not for the aggrieved amongst us.
The EU is fundamentally different from the UK in so many ways.

For all its deficiencies the UK is very much more democratic than the EU.

Albeit that our civil service was highly politicised by that awful Blair it is still not the executive of the UK whereas the European Commission is and uses the output from the European Parliament as one of its inputs and the structure of the European Parliament is such that it acts more as a committee than a source of policy.

BREXIT came about because as a nation we are not prepared to be dictated to by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats running their own agenda and politically unanswerable to the public making laws that are then passed to be rubber stamped by the European Parliament.

So quite apart from the bottom line negative figure when the cost benefit of EU membership is concerned as a nation our very ethos is counter to that of the rest of the EU member states though Hungary is also increasingly obviously finding Brussels a very incompatible bedfellow.
 
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