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Is that a note to yourself?

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No

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Absolutely, hit the nail on the head. All artificially arranged for the movement of people. As Julies says, the jobs were advertised abroad through the recruitment agencies. They could pay less wages as accommodation was included (whether it be substantial or not, was of no concern) Our workers could not afford the lower wages as they had to keep themselves, and pay their bills out of the little that was on offer.
The days when trains took thousands from London to Kent to work in the fields of the hops, strawberries , apple and cherry orchards. It was like a holiday for those coming out of London . The local mums in the villages would work on the farms, picking the strawberries etc, and took their children with them. It was apparently great fun according to my mother in law, and a community event and we relied on seasonal vegetables and fruit .
However, the hop fields were finished and yet again German hold 60% of the hop fields in EUrope, the orchards were drastically reduced or closed and fruit started to be imported , at twice the price. Who remembers when we were being encouraged to buy French and Italian golden delicious ? The green grocers were filled with foreign fruit and veg. The beer was made abroad, the blackcurrants were shaken off the bushes mechanically and sold to Channel for their perfume, and so the new farming methods under massive greenhouses began and foreign imports helped to disburse EU migrant workers throughout Europe, because they needed the work. We didn't count any longer, bar work or call centres for our people.

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No they don't, not anymore. Margret Thatcher when prime minster fought against France in getting decent payments for British farmers, something the French fought heavily against. Then comes along David Cameron in his last term as prime minster, tries to negotiate with the EU to get decent terms on other trade terms and uses the farming subsidy as leverage. Cameron gets some thing but not all the important things which result in the country having a referendum on leaving the EU BUT the important thing is, Cameron came away having given up the good farming subsides that Thatcher fought so hard for.

France is the one who benefits the most with money from the EU going to it's farmers, the UK doesn't because of Cameron and his bad negotiation skills.

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Some old footage of the 'hop picking' in Kent



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN_pjwhhWH0

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Personally, I see the subsidies as another ploy for the EU eventually take control the land.

If subsidies are given to grow crops and produce that the EU require, the EU could also stop giving subsidies, if they had enough crops and produce from other countries, which could be arranged over a period of years. That would mean the eventual closure of privately owned farms , and then the EU buy them out and the land would be under Government or EU control.
A major win, win for the EU, as it would spread from one country to another, and then complete control of all farming land , and basically reverting back to a feudal system.

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Hop picking in Kent was often the only holiday many of thr poorer workers from London had

Not many hop fields left now although there have been a few new ones established by enterprising hipsters

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I asked after your well being in the states for a reason. In the thread about EHIC awareness, on 7 october (post 46) you stated:

Ha ha ....

We took out insurance by Admiral for our trip to New York later this week for about a week and that was £40 for the both of us.


Concluding from your answer you are not in the big apple, but you did bite off more than you could chew.
That statement on going to america was another of you statements without truth in it (moderators have warned against calling out others as liars, so I will not do so).

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Not now those jobs were given to cheaper labour from the EU.

That will change in a few weeks

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It’s not the EU you need to worry about. Wealthy investors and private equity firms have been buying up plenty. Farmland was one of the most profitable investments

Here’s one of them

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/whoow...g-up-land/amp/

However, the Brexit vote has caused the investment value to drop and the outlook looks bleaker when we leave

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.t...-forecasts-say

So it would seem that should your hypothesis that the EU want to buy up our farms be true, the irony is that it is Brexit that will make our farms with less thus cheaper for the EU to buy.