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13-10-2019, 07:53 PM
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ISo it would seem that should your hypothesis that the EU want to buy up our farms be true, the irony is that it is Brexit that will make our farms with less thus cheaper for the EU to buy.
Well what do you know! Dom cummings is a true patriot. His farm has been receiving hundred thousands of EU subsidies. And he is giving all that up for brexit. My man! https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit-advi...bsidies-496081
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13-10-2019, 07:54 PM
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Not now those jobs were given to cheaper labour from the EU.

That will change in a few weeks
So with Brexit we’ll see brits holidaying in the hop fields again will we?

They wouldn’t last a day
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13-10-2019, 07:58 PM
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So with Brexit we’ll see brits holidaying in the hop fields again will we?

They wouldn’t last a day
Hop is one of the products harvested in the way bread likes the most. By machines produced in the usa. https://hopsharvester.com
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13-10-2019, 08:39 PM
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Hop is one of the products harvested in the way bread likes the most. By machines produced in the usa. https://hopsharvester.com
Yes, the first mechanical hop harvester was used in 1922 in the UK but was not that successful on the 20’ long English hops and didn’t take over until the shorter hedge hops were developed

I think we have more need for grape pickers in Kent nowadays
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13-10-2019, 08:41 PM
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Re: Fears come to fruition

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Yes, the first mechanical hop harvester was used in 1922 in the UK but was not that successful on the 20’ long English hops and didn’t take over until the shorter hedge hops were developed

I think we have more need for grape pickers in Kent nowadays
I have tasted wines there that could compete with australian wines (a bread statement).
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13-10-2019, 08:58 PM
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Like it or not, this is one of the first moves into control of farm lands .

Sales of farmland: Commission issues guidelines to Member States :

https://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-17-3901_en.htm

Key features of Commission's guidance

The Communication clarifies that Member State are competent to decide on measures to control sales of farmland. As clarified by the Court of Justice of the European Union, some restrictions may be acceptable under certain conditions:

prior authorisations from national authorities for the acquisition of land;


limits on the size of the land to be acquired;


pre-emption rights allowing certain categories of buyers to purchase farmland before it is sold to others. Buyers benefitting from these rights may include tenant farmers, neighbours, co-owners, and the State;


State price intervention.


However, EU law does not allow discriminatory restrictions such as general residence requirements as preconditions for the acquisition of land.

Disproportionate restrictions on cross-border investment are also unlawful. Based on case law, it is in particular disproportionate to:

Impose self-farming obligations;


Prohibit companies from buying land;


Require qualifications in farming as pre-conditions for buying land.


Today's Communication responds to a call in March by the European Parliament, which asked the Commission to set a clear and comprehensive set of criteria for land market regulations to ensure a level playing field in compliance with EU law.
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13-10-2019, 09:07 PM
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But for the UK it may already be too late: https://www.theguardian.com/business...rmland-estates
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13-10-2019, 09:18 PM
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Re: Fears come to fruition

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I have tasted wines there that could compete with australian wines (a bread statement).

What's wrong with UK wines ?
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13-10-2019, 11:18 PM
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Re: Fears come to fruition

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Like it or not, this is one of the first moves into control of farm lands .

Sales of farmland: Commission issues guidelines to Member States :

https://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-17-3901_en.htm

Key features of Commission's guidance

The Communication clarifies that Member State are competent to decide on measures to control sales of farmland. As clarified by the Court of Justice of the European Union, some restrictions may be acceptable under certain conditions:

prior authorisations from national authorities for the acquisition of land;


limits on the size of the land to be acquired;


pre-emption rights allowing certain categories of buyers to purchase farmland before it is sold to others. Buyers benefitting from these rights may include tenant farmers, neighbours, co-owners, and the State;


State price intervention.


However, EU law does not allow discriminatory restrictions such as general residence requirements as preconditions for the acquisition of land.

Disproportionate restrictions on cross-border investment are also unlawful. Based on case law, it is in particular disproportionate to:

Impose self-farming obligations;


Prohibit companies from buying land;


Require qualifications in farming as pre-conditions for buying land.


Today's Communication responds to a call in March by the European Parliament, which asked the Commission to set a clear and comprehensive set of criteria for land market regulations to ensure a level playing field in compliance with EU law.
So you’re in favour of the super wealthy and private equity ventures buying up all the farmland then?

They care not for communities or environment, only profit
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14-10-2019, 01:08 AM
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Re: Fears come to fruition

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So with Brexit we’ll see brits holidaying in the hop fields again will we?

They wouldn’t last a day

Your the one saying that.

I'm saying higher wages will favour automation which increases productivity. Your world may not have moved forward since the 1920s but everyone else's has
 
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