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07-10-2019, 11:47 AM
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Re: Climate Change.

Originally Posted by Dextrous63 ->
True. But what's making things problematic is how we've altered their dormant state. For example, coal, oil and gas have been burnt which has changed how they have "interacted" for hundreds/millions of years having originally contributed towards a relative equilibrium.
Perhaps we could burn eco-warriors for our energy needs.
God knows, they're absolutely no use for anything else.
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Re: Climate Change.

Originally Posted by Longdogs ->
But what ever it is, unless we gathered it from outer space, it must have come from the earth, granted that it has been changed.
Yep. We can't change an element's structure, but we can make new compounds which wouldn't occur naturally. What adverse effect these have, or indeed the processes used to make them, is something that can't always be predicted.
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07-10-2019, 12:03 PM
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Re: Climate Change.

Originally Posted by JBR ->
Perhaps we could burn eco-warriors for our energy needs.
God knows, they're absolutely no use for anything else.
As irritating as they are, and many of them are!, they do contribute in raising awareness which can have a potentially beneficial effect.
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07-10-2019, 12:27 PM
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Re: Climate Change.

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Perhaps we could burn eco-warriors for our energy needs.
God knows, they're absolutely no use for anything else.
Only up until the next bandwagon arrives.
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07-10-2019, 03:25 PM
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Re: Climate Change.

Originally Posted by Dextrous63 ->
As irritating as they are, and many of them are!, they do contribute in raising awareness which can have a potentially beneficial effect.
They have not raised any awareness in me, other than I am painfully aware of the problems for ordinary working people they enjoy causing.
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07-10-2019, 03:26 PM
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Re: Climate Change.

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Only up until the next bandwagon arrives.
They can keep sending more on a regular basis to keep our 'fuel tanks' topped up.
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07-10-2019, 03:29 PM
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Re: Climate Change.

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Yep. We can't change an element's structure
What about carbon?
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07-10-2019, 03:36 PM
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Re: Climate Change.

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They have not raised any awareness in me, other than I am painfully aware of the problems for ordinary working people they enjoy causing.
It's ordinary working people going about doing their ordinary jobs in the ordinary way that is the problem.

The key word is ordinary, closely related to familiar.

It is ordinary that is at the root of the huge and burgeoning problem.

What today is ordinary has to be changed.

Change is never easy and usually never popular. It often means entering the unknown, loosing ones groove, strangeness, and fear.

But it has to take place.
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07-10-2019, 03:40 PM
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Re: Climate Change.

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What about carbon?
I'm referring to its atomic number. Carbon has 6 protons at its nucleus and we can't change that.
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07-10-2019, 03:58 PM
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Re: Climate Change.

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What about carbon?
Carbon is carbon is carbon but -- it can take the form of a number of different allotropes.

(NB. Don't confuse allotropes with isotopes)
 
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