11-05-2016, 03:21 PM
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Very true and profound. Everything about man is based on greed, tis the wheel that drives us(the species). For those in position of power will never relinquish it; whilst those whom seek will never sway from it. Tis the nature of man. Maybe ,as man evolves philosophically, the species will reach a point in it's evolution where he realizes the survival of the species is dependent on the needs of the masses and not the needs/desires of the one.11-05-2016, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by senile1
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Everything about man is based on greed, tis the wheel that drives us(the species). For those in position of power will never relinquish it; whilst those whom seek will never sway from it. Tis the nature of man. Maybe ,as man evolves philosophically, the species will reach a point in it's evolution where he realizes the survival of the species is dependent on the needs of the masses and not the needs/desires of the one.
Man has been placed in a position of survival. He has been placed into an environment in which the requirements for long and healthy life are no longer freely available so that he has to work and toil to acquire them from different sources.
He has been kept ignorant of his heritage, his origins and his true nature and given one overriding life instruction . . . to survive, to persist, to avoid death as long as possible.
Those conditions result in the way that man is, how he operates, how he thinks and how he acts. But none of it is his true nature.
The Bible hints at the true picture though its stories are not meant to be taken literally. There was a time when man (and woman of course) had the Elixir of Life, the Fountain of Youth, call it what you will. The Philosopher' Stone, the Manna from heaven, the Soma, Alkahest, Ambrosia, Nectar of the gods.
With this, man needed nothing more for it gave them all the energy their body's needed to do its thing. Food and drink were unnecessary but a pleasant experience nonetheless. They would not feel the effects of extreme heat or cold and they would live for many hundreds of years. The Bible talks of such people, like Noah for example.
At some point however, this fantastic energy source, the Manna, was taken away, removed from man's grasp leaving him in a position of decay and illness. The idle pleasure of eating became an absolute necessity to provide body energy but it would not be enough to sustain him in the same way as the Manna did. He would have to work for that food too. Grow it, cultivate it, harvest it, prepare it but even so, his lifespan would be reduced from many hundreds of years to a 2 digit figure and he would spend the latter years in old age, with decrepitude and illness.
All this because God or whomever to choose to believe in, took away man's primary energy source, abandoning him to the lesser food sources of the Earth. Everything else that has happened has ensued from that singular event. Man's need to survive, the survival of the fittest, hunger, greed, fighting, wars, the establishment of groups working together, armies, governments, secret societies, power mad moguls and ultimately the ridiculous imbalance of wealth and power mankind currently suffers from.
None of it is man's true nature. It is a nature man has been forced to adopt as a result of having his free energy source removed.
Hard to believe in a loving God that would do such a thing. That would take away our life blood and leave the world in chaos and to reach such an appalling state of misery and suffering on a global scale.
Easier to believe that the great secret of the Manna/Stone has been hidden away by a small collective and protected through centuries of turmoil. A collective who keep the secret for themselves and leave everyone else in a life of slavery and exploitation. Should the secret leak out and the Manna once again be freely available to all, everything would change. Life as we know it would collapse overnight. Finance systems would collapse as we would have no need of them. For a while, there would be utter chaos, but out of that turmoil would come peace, a new world, a world where everyone would be healthy and live 100s of years, a world where man's assault on animals for food would cease, where toiling the fields would cease. Everyone would be free and happy to lead their true natural lives, with each other.
11-05-2016, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Realist
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I don't agree with this. It is not the nature of man to be greedy nor to unnecessarily cause harm to his fellow man.Man has been placed in a position of survival. He has been placed into an environment in which the requirements for long and healthy life are no longer freely available so that he has to work and toil to acquire them from different sources.
He has been kept ignorant of his heritage, his origins and his true nature and given one overriding life instruction . . . to survive, to persist, to avoid death as long as possible.
Those conditions result in the way that man is, how he operates, how he thinks and how he acts. But none of it is his true nature.
The Bible hints at the true picture though its stories are not meant to be taken literally. There was a time when man (and woman of course) had the Elixir of Life, the Fountain of Youth, call it what you will. The Philosopher' Stone, the Manna from heaven, the Soma, Alkahest, Ambrosia, Nectar of the gods.
With this, man needed nothing more for it gave them all the energy their body's needed to do its thing. Food and drink were unnecessary but a pleasant experience nonetheless. They would not feel the effects of extreme heat or cold and they would live for many hundreds of years. The Bible talks of such people, like Noah for example.
At some point however, this fantastic energy source, the Manna, was taken away, removed from man's grasp leaving him in a position of decay and illness. The idle pleasure of eating became an absolute necessity to provide body energy but it would not be enough to sustain him in the same way as the Manna did. He would have to work for that food too. Grow it, cultivate it, harvest it, prepare it but even so, his lifespan would be reduced from many hundreds of years to a 2 digit figure and he would spend the latter years in old age, with decrepitude and illness.
All this because God or whomever to choose to believe in, took away man's primary energy source, abandoning him to the lesser food sources of the Earth. Everything else that has happened has ensued from that singular event. Man's need to survive, the survival of the fittest, hunger, greed, fighting, wars, the establishment of groups working together, armies, governments, secret societies, power mad moguls and ultimately the ridiculous imbalance of wealth and power mankind currently suffers from.
None of it is man's true nature. It is a nature man has been forced to adopt as a result of having his free energy source removed.
Hard to believe in a loving God that would do such a thing. That would take away our life blood and leave the world in chaos and to reach such an appalling state of misery and suffering on a global scale.
Easier to believe that the great secret of the Manna/Stone has been hidden away by a small collective and protected through centuries of turmoil. A collective who keep the secret for themselves and leave everyone else in a life of slavery and exploitation. Should the secret leak out and the Manna once again be freely available to all, everything would change. Life as we know it would collapse overnight. Finance systems would collapse as we would have no need of them. For a while, there would be utter chaos, but out of that turmoil would come peace, a new world, a world where everyone would be healthy and live 100s of years, a world where man's assault on animals for food would cease, where toiling the fields would cease. Everyone would be free and happy to lead their true natural lives, with each other.
11-05-2016, 04:50 PM
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Every positive step forward we make is the result of cooperation. Together we are unstoppable. However, the greedy, who want more than everyone else, conspire to convince us that competition is the goal and meaning of life. They fool us into competing with each other, killing each other, betraying our friends, so that they can reap the benefits and get even richer. Every attempt at mass cooperation in history has been undermined, ridiculed, betrayed and destroyed by the power of the greedy. I doubt we'll ever have the sense and the strength to withstand them. We are too gullible and too easily flattered by con-men.11-05-2016, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by senile1
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The Bible is a piece of literature, written by man approx. 2,000 years ago
The same process is described in many other works including those of Hinduism, Taoism and so on. In essence, there was a time many years ago when the secret was widely known by many (The Golden Age) and it was entrenched in every major religion. At some point I guess that a global catastrophe occurred on Earth and people made efforts to preserve the secret in case they themselves did not survive.
The Emerald Tablet is one such description of the process.
11-05-2016, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Realist
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It is but one of many pieces of literature into which men have secretly hidden the knowledge of the Philosopher's Stone. The Bible mentions it in many places and the book of Genesis alone contains some 10-15 key words encoded in it which are from the alchemical document by Basilius Valentinus called "The Twelve keys". I could provide many Bible references which either talk about the Philosopher's Stone or which describe the process for making it.The same process is described in many other works including those of Hinduism, Taoism and so on. In essence, there was a time many years ago when the secret was widely known by many (The Golden Age) and it was entrenched in every major religion. At some point I guess that a global catastrophe occurred on Earth and people made efforts to preserve the secret in case they themselves did not survive.
The Emerald Tablet is one such description of the process.
All are works of literature, my friend, theoretical at best. Most works of faith will bare similar passages and at some points even agree, only to continue upon their separate path's. My belief, though, each must follow their chosen path in life. It appears you have chosen your's, and in this, I wish you the best.
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