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01-01-2021, 07:38 PM
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Re: Nightingale Hospitals !!

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
What is the situation in the private hospital system Zaphod??
For instance, do they have any spare capacity available to
accommodate covid patients in any way?? Or do they only take
paying guests?
Surely in a national emergency they could be mobilised for the
common good ?

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In March the NHS booked almost all the private beds and staff available in England so yes, that option too is there certainly.

"The emergency agreement, announced this afternoon and only for the NHS in England, adds around 8,000 hospital beds, nearly 1,200 more ventilators, more than 10,000 nurses, 700 doctors and 8,000 other clinical staff."

https://www.hsj.co.uk/policy-and-reg...027196.article
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01-01-2021, 09:06 PM
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Re: Nightingale Hospitals !!

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As suspected the new hospitals don't have enough staff to operate
them according to the body responsible for training new nurses??
Who's fault is this??
They have had over a year to engage and give basic training to new
recruits, so why the deficit?
Do we to have an enquiry to get anything done?

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Think back 9 months ... the end was nigh, Wulhan was working flat out to build a hospital from scratch. Knee jerk reaction over here, we transformed exhibition halls; seemed like a good idea at the time, but they were never needed. Thing settle down, the virus turned out to be not so deadly, the venue management wanted to get back to planning events. Now, with the second wave new strain, they're in limbo. It's not as if we knew where we were or know where we are going. 😐
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01-01-2021, 09:14 PM
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Last I heard, a few days ago, Nightingale London had started removing equipment, dismantling the hospital, but that's been put on hold. It's currently neither an exhibition centre not a hospital. It's advertising events for next month.
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01-01-2021, 09:54 PM
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I don't think they know whether they are coming or going right now. The Government might have helped by recognising that this was highly infectious a bit sooner. But they don't ever seem to act until it's an emergency state.
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01-01-2021, 11:58 PM
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Re: Nightingale Hospitals !!

Originally Posted by Zaphod ->
In March the NHS booked almost all the private beds and staff available in England so yes, that option too is there certainly.

"The emergency agreement, announced this afternoon and only for the NHS in England, adds around 8,000 hospital beds, nearly 1,200 more ventilators, more than 10,000 nurses, 700 doctors and 8,000 other clinical staff."

https://www.hsj.co.uk/policy-and-reg...027196.article
Well you must know my next question Zaphod ?
Have they ever used this facility,if not, why not?
Obviously the private sector can't keep their assets on permanent
standby just to suit the NHS?
What will happen to all their rich customers if they fall sick??
Why pressurise an allready overloaded NHS when there is no need ??
Could it be that there is friction between the two systems l wonder??

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02-01-2021, 12:02 AM
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Re: Nightingale Hospitals !!

Originally Posted by AnnieS ->
I don't think they know whether they are coming or going right now. The Government might have helped by recognising that this was highly infectious a bit sooner. But they don't ever seem to act until it's an emergency state.
The government don't do the research Annie ?
That's why they have advisers with scientific knowledge,(hopefully!)

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02-01-2021, 12:10 AM
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Re: Nightingale Hospitals !!

Originally Posted by d00d ->
Think back 9 months ... the end was nigh, Wulhan was working flat out to build a hospital from scratch. Knee jerk reaction over here, we transformed exhibition halls; seemed like a good idea at the time, but they were never needed. Thing settle down, the virus turned out to be not so deadly, the venue management wanted to get back to planning events. Now, with the second wave new strain, they're in limbo. It's not as if we knew where we were or know where we are going. 😐
I think they were needed dOOd, but as has been admitted now, they
have not got the staff?
Which is probably down to the cuts made during the financial crisis?

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02-01-2021, 12:35 AM
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Re: Nightingale Hospitals !!

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The government don't do the research Annie ?
That's why they have advisers with scientific knowledge,(hopefully!)

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It's clear it falls on deaf ears DM until the wolf is inside the door!
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02-01-2021, 12:38 AM
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Re: Nightingale Hospitals !!

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
I think they were needed dOOd, but as has been admitted now, they
have not got the staff?
Which is probably down to the cuts made during the financial crisis?

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Well they did also remove the nursing bursary well after the crisis. They have also been wrangling with doctors about their contract, in particular junior doctors. Basically they have been doing what tories always do to the NHS.
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02-01-2021, 11:23 AM
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Re: Nightingale Hospitals !!

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
The government don't do the research Annie ?
That's why they have advisers with scientific knowledge,(hopefully!)

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And the advisors and scientists don't always get it right, as has happened often in the past, and depending on which scientists you listen to....The ones who talk the loudest on the BBC are not necessarily the best ones to listen to...
 
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